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JimNasium 07:07 PM 01-17-2005
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
OK, I'm starting to worry a bit. Came home from work and no action yet. It's been about 29 hours since I pitched the yeast. I just took the wort's temp, its at 62 degrees. I had moved the fermentor to a cooler room last night because I pitched the yeast at 76 degrees and I wanted it to cool down a bit. I just moved it back to a warmer room and swirled the wort around pretty vigorously.

Any ideas or am I going to have to throw some more yeast in? I still have a package of dry yeast here.
Relax and have a homebrew. That 62 degrees just slowed your activity is all. Give it another 24 hours before you pitch the dry stuff.
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Dartgod 07:12 PM 01-17-2005
Originally Posted by JimNasium:
Relax and have a homebrew.
I don't have any home brew. But I would like to, if this thing would ever take off!! LOL
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JimNasium 07:14 PM 01-17-2005
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
I don't have any home brew. But I would like to, if this thing would ever take off!! LOL
Sorry. I couldn't resist. I really don't think you are in trouble. I hovered over my first batch like it was my first born child......and then I drank it way too fast when it was done. There's nothing better than drinking that first bottle of beer that YOU brewed. I'll be waiting for a review. :-)
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Phobia 07:17 PM 01-17-2005
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
I don't have any home brew. But I would like to, if this thing would ever take off!! LOL
You're screwed. You should just drink it now.
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JimNasium 07:20 PM 01-17-2005
Originally Posted by Phobia:
You're screwed. You should just drink it now.
I agree with Phobia. You're screwed. You should send it to me and I will dispose of it for you. :-)
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Bwana 07:14 PM 01-17-2005
What Jim said.. If you don't get any action in the next 24 hours, toss in another bag of yeast.
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Dartgod 07:21 AM 01-18-2005
Still nothing this morning. I'm starting to get very discouraged. I guess I'll throw in another package of yeast if it's not happeneing when I get home tonight?
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mlyonsd 07:27 AM 01-18-2005
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
Still nothing this morning. I'm starting to get very discouraged. I guess I'll throw in another package of yeast if it's not happeneing when I get home tonight?
You're sure you don't have an air leak around the air lock?

How long does your recipe say to let the fermenting process go?
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Dartgod 07:35 AM 01-18-2005
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
You're sure you don't have an air leak around the air lock?

How long does your recipe say to let the fermenting process go?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, although I have no way of actually testing it. I'm confident that's not the problem.

Nothing definite on fermentation time. Depending on the temperature, anywhere from 3 days to 2 weeks. From what I've read, that's pretty much the case with any brew. The only thing I've done wrong so far (that I'm aware of) is put it in too cool of a room the first day. The wort had cooled to 62 degrees when I got home last night. I put it in a warmer room and this morning the side of the fermentor felt slightly warmer to touch so I assume it's warmed up. If nothing has happened when I get home tonite, I'll measure the temp again to be sure.
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mlyonsd 07:42 AM 01-18-2005
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, although I have no way of actually testing it. I'm confident that's not the problem.

Nothing definite on fermentation time. Depending on the temperature, anywhere from 3 days to 2 weeks. From what I've read, that's pretty much the case with any brew. The only thing I've done wrong so far (that I'm aware of) is put it in too cool of a room the first day. The wort had cooled to 62 degrees when I got home last night. I put it in a warmer room and this morning the side of the fermentor felt slightly warmer to touch so I assume it's warmed up. If nothing has happened when I get home tonite, I'll measure the temp again to be sure.
It sounds to me like you've figured out the problem. Any brew that could ferment up to two weeks is not going to show much action at all. If it did the alcohol content would be astronomical. If it were me, I wouldn't touch it for quite a while. It sounds to me like you did everything right and I've never heard of a bad batch of yeast.

My last brew didn't bubble at all, it just moved the vodka in the air lock to the exhaust side. I was worried about it but it turned out fine.
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Radar Chief 08:06 AM 01-18-2005
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
Still nothing this morning. I'm starting to get very discouraged. I guess I'll throw in another package of yeast if it's not happeneing when I get home tonight?

I’ve had this exact problem and here’s what I did to jump-start the fermentation.
Go to your local brew store after work, if you’re in KC there’s one called Bacchus Barleycorn that’s well equipped, and get some Yeast Nutrients.
Create a new pitch by first boiling about 2 cups of water. After the water reaches a full boil, remove it from the heat, cover it with tin foil and poke your thermometer through the foil (the foil is just to keep spores, dust and wild yeast from getting into your pitch).
Once the temperature is below 110 Deg. F , closer to 90 would be OK also, add yeast nutrients, dry yeast and recover with tin foil allowing the dry yeast to reconstitute.
Now allow the pitch to cool to around 70 Deg. F or about room temperature and within an hour or two you should start seeing yeast activity in the pitch.
Now you’re ready to re-pitch with an active pitch and once added to your fermenter, you should start seeing activity within a couple of hours.
Since I’ve had problems getting yeast to start, I do this for every batch and haven’t had the problem since.
These guys have a cool solution to the same problem; it’s called a “smack pack”. The yeast is contained inside a capsule and surrounded by yeast nutrients, so all you have to do is take the pack and smack it with the heal of your hand to break the capsule. Within 24 hours the pack will swell up until it looks like it’s gonna burst, then it’s ready to pitch and you know you’re pitching an active yeast.
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Radar Chief 08:14 AM 01-18-2005
Something you could use instead of yeast nutrients is to siphon off some sweet wort out of your fermenter and create a new pitch using it.
I personally like adding the yeast to a pitch like this, either with sweet wort of yeast nutrients, so I can see yeast activity and know it’s working before pouring it into the wort.
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Rukdafaidas 07:58 AM 01-18-2005
What kind of dry yeast did you use and how much? The best advice I could give a starting homebrewer is to use liquid yeasts and make starters. Keep bumping the starters up until they're about a half gallon for a 5 gallon batch.
When you get several batches under your belt and you get to the point where you are wanting to buy more and more stuff (guaranteed to happen), make one of your first purchases a stainless aeration stone and oxygen setup. When pitching your yeast, pure oxygen really speeds up the process.
Nasium, we probably have some all grain equipment we might want to sell. Like I mentioned in a previous thread, we have built a brewery and will have our old equipment available pretty soon.
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Dartgod 08:04 AM 01-18-2005
Originally Posted by Rukdafaidas:
What kind of dry yeast did you use and how much? The best advice I could give a starting homebrewer is to use liquid yeasts and make starters. Keep bumping the starters up until they're about a half gallon for a 5 gallon batch.
When you get several batches under your belt and you get to the point where you are wanting to buy more and more stuff (guaranteed to happen), make one of your first purchases a stainless aeration stone and oxygen setup. When pitching your yeast, pure oxygen really speeds up the process.
Nasium, we probably have some all grain equipment we might want to sell. Like I mentioned in a previous thread, we have built a brewery and will have our old equipment available pretty soon.
I didn't use the dry yeast that came with the kit. I bought a vial of White Labs Hefeweizen yeast and used it. I wish I had made a starter with it, but was told that wasn't necessary.

What did you mean by this?
Originally Posted by :
Keep bumping the starters up until they're about a half gallon for a 5 gallon batch.

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Rukdafaidas 08:25 AM 01-18-2005
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
I didn't use the dry yeast that came with the kit. I bought a vial of White Labs Hefeweizen yeast and used it. I wish I had made a starter with it, but was told that wasn't necessary.

What did you mean by this?
Forget about the starter part, let's make this simple and get your beer going.
Is there a certain kind of wheat beer that you're shooting for? Are you wanting a beer that tastes like an American Wheat (Boulevard) or are you wanting a Hefeweizen?
If you're wanting a beer similar to Boulevard's Wheat, dump in the Nottingham it's be great. If you're wanting a Hefeweizen, the yeast is very important. Hefeweizen yeasts impart a clove and banana flavor that comes directly from Hefeweizen yeasts.
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