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Fantasy/CasinoPlanet>Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs
Rain Man 12:15 AM 03-22-2009
The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.



Original post: You can ignore this now.


Spoiler!

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

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Kyle DeLexus 07:11 PM 05-10-2009
Originally Posted by bdeg:
1430 is 35%
Shoot, I just saw that and got excited thinking it was 30 before I looked at the OP and then did the calculation again. Nice btw, the Pats are my #2 trade partner if I can't work something else out.
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bdeg 07:19 PM 05-10-2009
i thought you were going to take Sanchez of of 5:57 pm :-):-) jp, it does work out almost too well

does your trade involve the #3 pick?

if not a potential solution to your problem, Rain Man, might be to keep it 35% for our top pick, but 30% for the rest. I think that'd be fair considering the draft.
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Kyle DeLexus 07:33 PM 05-10-2009
Originally Posted by bdeg:
i thought you were going to take Sanchez of of 5:57 pm :-):-) jp, it does work out almost too well

does your trade involve the #3 pick?

if not a potential solution to your problem, Rain Man, might be to keep it 35% for our top pick, but 30% for the rest. I think that'd be fair considering the draft.
Yeah it involves the 3, I was going to as of 5:57 but then I noticed the Pats had 4 seconds and I really didn't need anyone in the late first round :-). I was going to go with Denver and get Maclin in the first but would have rather had DHB.
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Rain Man 08:30 PM 05-10-2009
Originally Posted by bdeg:
i thought you were going to take Sanchez of of 5:57 pm :-):-) jp, it does work out almost too well

does your trade involve the #3 pick?

if not a potential solution to your problem, Rain Man, might be to keep it 35% for our top pick, but 30% for the rest. I think that'd be fair considering the draft.
That sounds reasonable. 35% for 1st round picks, 30% for all other picks.
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Kyle DeLexus 11:58 PM 05-10-2009
Accept the Cassel/Vrable trade. Atlanta gets TG and Couldn't work any other trades and had to do the same trade with the Pats as mentioned earlier. It is the only one that gets back about equal value. I wanted to trade with the Donks and get their 18, 2nd, and 3rd and get Maclin, Cook, and Unger. This gets me Brown, Cook, and Unger. So here are the picks I traded the 3 for 40(500), 41(490), 73(225), 83(175), 141(35.5), 232(2.2), and the 234(2)

40. Everette Brown, OLB
41. Max Unger, C, OG, OT
67. Alex Magee, DE
73. Kraig Urbik, OT
83. Jared Cook, TE
102. Donald Washington, CB
139. Johnny Knox, WR
141. Duke Robinson, OG
175. Quinten Lawrence, WR
212. A.Q. Shipley, C
232.Darryl Richards, DE
234. Chase Patton, QB
256. Succop, K

For now, I might revise.
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wazu 06:29 PM 07-16-2009
If I'm not mistaken, we're only a few days away from lockdown so bumping this.
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Rain Man 09:54 PM 07-16-2009
Ooh, thanks. Anyone else want to get in on this? Now's the time.
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darosa88 01:14 AM 07-17-2009
this seems really cool, it's just too bad I don't care about the chiefs.

I wish someone over on our bears message board would put together something like this... (of course I don't want to run it, lol)
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Kyle DeLexus 02:06 AM 07-17-2009
Originally Posted by darosa88:
this seems really cool, it's just too bad I don't care about the chiefs.

I wish someone over on our bears message board would put together something like this... (of course I don't want to run it, lol)
Should check out game 2. I know there are a bunch of people that haven't cut the roster down yet, because I'm one of them I keep forgetting....going to have to do that this weekend or next week sometime.
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Rain Man 07:33 PM 08-28-2009
Okay, everyone, final roster cutdown date for the Chiefs is September 5th, so you need to have your roster cuts by September 8th.


And by the way, check out my new team guys + Tony Gonzalez. I'm the best GM in history.




Originally Posted by Rain Man:
1. The Duluth Normans reject the Cassel/Vrable trade.
2. The Duluth Normans reject the Tony Gonzalez trade.
3. The Duluth Normans reject the 2009 7th Round pick for the 2010 7th Round pick trade.

The 2009 Duluth Normans Draft:

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets)
#34 - Rey Maualuga - ILB - USC (went to Bengals)
#67 - Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions)
#102 - D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears)
#139 - Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers)
#175 - Myron Pryor - DT - Kentucky (went to Patriots)
#212 - Zack Follett - OLB - California (went to Lions)
#237 - No pick - Rejected Trade
#256 - Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers)

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wazu 04:58 PM 09-03-2009
Question about Step #3. It reads:

"Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 35 Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 18 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub"."

So, just to be clear. When I select my 35 "Chiefs" players, I am also including players who I drafted, or didn't trade away (as would have been the case with Jared Allen) who are on other teams in real life? Pretty sure that's what you mean, but just clarifying.
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Rain Man 05:13 PM 09-03-2009
Originally Posted by Adam:
Question about Step #3. It reads:

"Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 35 Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 18 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub"."

So, just to be clear. When I select my 35 "Chiefs" players, I am also including players who I drafted, or didn't trade away (as would have been the case with Jared Allen) who are on other teams in real life? Pretty sure that's what you mean, but just clarifying.
In this year, it would be:

anyone currently on the Chiefs roster (MINUS anyone acquired by the Chiefs via trade where you rejected the trade)

OR

anyone you drafted

OR

anyone traded away since the game began for whom you REJECTED the trade

OR

anyone acquired via trade since the game began for whom you ACCEPTED the trade
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wazu 05:23 PM 09-03-2009
One other question that just came to me. What if I were to decide Sanchez isn't worth it this year and not include him in my top 35. Does that mean he won't be available to me in 2010?
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Rain Man 05:33 PM 09-03-2009
Originally Posted by Adam:
One other question that just came to me. What if I were to decide Sanchez isn't worth it this year and not include him in my top 35. Does that mean he won't be available to me in 2010?

If you drafted Sanchez this year and then cut him in camp, he's gone. He's off selling insurance or even more unfortunate, he's picked up by the Raiders.
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wazu 05:40 PM 09-03-2009
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
If you drafted Sanchez this year and then cut him in camp, he's gone. He's off selling insurance or even more unfortunate, he's picked up by the Raiders.
Okay, now let's say it's a Chiefs player. I drafted Quinten Lawrence along with the Chiefs. He'll most likely be sitting on the roster next year. If I cut him this year, and he's still a "real" Chief next year. He's he on or off the table for me?
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