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ThaVirus 09:18 PM 08-18-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
But that's exactly how it happens in the book. Even the line.



The part they don't explain to you in the movie is that the blade Merry stabs the Witch-King with is enchanted, so he becomes weakened and vulnerable to any blade after taking the hit.



Eowyn just happened to be the one lucky enough to have the opportunity.

Uh huh.. so there was no reason to have Eowyn strike the final blow or include the "I am no man" line then?

Surely you agree it was woke pandering.
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Hammock Parties 10:10 PM 08-18-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Uh huh.. so there was no reason to have Eowyn strike the final blow or include the "I am no man" line then?

Surely you agree it was woke pandering.
Direct from book

it actually informed her character quite a bit, since she was mostly fucking useless otherwise

and it made logical sense that she would do it, because she was next to merry for much of the battle, so she was right there, plus she was guarding her fallen king

certainly she didn't just magically drop kick the nazgul into oblivion
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Just Passin' By 01:14 AM 08-19-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Uh huh.. so there was no reason to have Eowyn strike the final blow or include the "I am no man" line then?

Surely you agree it was woke pandering.

You don't seem to grasp the concept.
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Hammock Parties 08:36 AM 08-20-2022
no spin needed - the scene's credibility was further informed by the earlier scene in the movie where it shows she's a highly skilled loader operator
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ThaVirus 04:51 PM 08-20-2022
Well I'm glad she got her forklift certification prior to her melee with the most dangerous creature in the galaxy lol
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Hammock Parties 08:48 PM 08-20-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Well I'm glad she got her forklift certification prior to her melee with the most dangerous creature in the galaxy lol
poor analysis of the xenomorph
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listopencil 07:02 AM 08-22-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Well I'm glad she got her forklift certification prior to her melee with the most dangerous creature in the galaxy lol
Full disclosure: Anyone who is forklift certified can do what Ripley did. It's part of the training.
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ThaVirus 07:14 AM 08-22-2022
Originally Posted by :
Yet all this splendid craftsmanship, popular moviemaking at its best, is in the service of building rooting interest in the story of a woman who keeps finding ways to transcend the limits that unexamined custom often imposes on her sex. In action pictures, women are supposed to swoon or retreat to a safe corner (or, at best, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition) while the male lead protects them and defends Western civilization as we know it. In Aliens, it is the guys who are all out of action at the climax and Ripley who is in a death duel with evil. As Director Cameron says, the endless "remulching" of ( the masculine hero by the "male-dominated industry" is, if nothing else, commercially shortsighted. "They choose to ignore that 50% of the audience is female. And I've been told that it has been proved demographically that 80% of the time, it's women who decide which film to see."
Is James Cameron the father of modern wokeism in Hollywood?

https://web.archive.org/web/20071031...1839-3,00.html
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Just Passin' By 10:55 AM 08-22-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Is James Cameron the father of modern wokeism in Hollywood?

https://web.archive.org/web/20071031...1839-3,00.html

Again, you seem to have no grasp of the concept. It's not wokeism just because a female (or minority) is heroic, or is the lead.
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dlphg9 04:40 PM 08-22-2022
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
Again, you seem to have no grasp of the concept. It's not wokeism just because a female (or minority) is heroic, or is the lead.
So then what is woke about this movie?
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ThaVirus 07:20 AM 08-22-2022
"Modern woke trash! Ripley was just a warrant officer on an interstellar freighter. She had to be taught how to shoot a gun by Hicks and yet she's able to walk into an Alien den and kill the queen?!? GAY SHIT."

-Clay's father at the Aliens premier, 1986
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listopencil 07:45 AM 08-22-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
"Modern woke trash! Ripley was just a warrant officer on an interstellar freighter. She had to be taught how to shoot a gun by Hicks and yet she's able to walk into an Alien den and kill the queen?!? GAY SHIT."

-Clay's father at the Aliens premier, 1986
Wait. Are you sure she was a Warrant Officer in the space navy?
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Hammock Parties 11:52 AM 08-22-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
"Modern woke trash! Ripley was just a warrant officer on an interstellar freighter. She had to be taught how to shoot a gun by Hicks and yet she's able to walk into an Alien den and kill the queen?!? GAY SHIT."

-Clay's father at the Aliens premier, 1986
*didn't kill the queen
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ThaVirus 12:12 PM 08-22-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
*didn't kill the queen
Right. That came after.. with the forklift..
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Hammock Parties 12:42 PM 08-22-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Right. That came after.. with the forklift..
forklift also didn't kill the queen
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