Originally Posted by lewdog:
Fish, you seem so much more refined than being a Tool. I'm kind of in shock.
MTG on the other hand...........
Hey, don't get me wrong. Tool fans are insufferable. Deserving of the reputation. But that said, I really respect Danny Carey a lot and his drumming style just absolutely spellbinds me. I was a drummer in high school. Had college drumming scholarship offers when I graduated, but I wanted to go into engineering instead. Regardless, he's crazy talented, local guy, and I just love his style. The way he can integrate different beats/patterns on snare/cymbal and still manage a different pattern on bass/etc, and then work them both together and change it up depending on the bass line... It's just really impressive. I completely understand the criticism though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Fish:
Good breakdown of the Pneuma video in the OP... Some of you dopey critics should watch this...
Yeah, he's a great drummer. When I was in junior high and high school (when I played drums in the marching band) I listened to Tool.
Don't care anymore. Now have a record collection of around 7000 records. Not a single one of them is a Tool record. Thought about grabbing Opiate for like $4 at cost from our distributor...but I haven't yet.
Adam Jones doesn't do much for me as a guitarist, and as great as Justin Chancellor is at what he does, I'm more into guys like James Jamerson and Duck Dunn these days. It moves me more. As a bassist, I like grooves. Funk. Soul. Real R&B. Groove. Flea, Bill Wyman, Ron Wood, John McVie, Paul McCartney, Andy Fraser, Bootsy, Eric Avery, Billy Cox, Tod Bowers, Jack Bruce, David Hood, Shonna Tucker, players like that.
I'm not saying Tool doesn't groove.. it's just not my groove.
And for the record, my favorite Rush record might be the one with John Rutsey on drums, the one with "What You're Doing", "Finding My Way", and "Working Man". More of a groove. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Fish:
Hey, don't get me wrong. Tool fans are insufferable. Deserving of the reputation. But that said, I really respect Danny Carey a lot and his drumming style just absolutely spellbinds me. I was a drummer in high school. Had college drumming scholarship offers when I graduated, but I wanted to go into engineering instead. Regardless, he's crazy talented, local guy, and I just love his style. The way he can integrate different beats/patterns on snare/cymbal and still manage a different pattern on bass/etc, and then work them both together and change it up depending on the bass line... It's just really impressive. I completely understand the criticism though.
Agreed on all that.
But fuck Tool fans. They deserve every bit of shade thrown their way, and I love watching their panties bunch when i tell them that Tool sucks.
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Yeah, he's a great drummer. When I was in junior high and high school (when I played drums in the marching band) I listened to Tool.
Don't care anymore. Now have a record collection of around 7000 records. Not a single one of them is a Tool record. Thought about grabbing Opiate for like $4 at cost from our distributor...but I haven't yet.
Adam Jones doesn't do much for me as a guitarist, and as great as Justin Chancellor is at what he does, I'm more into guys like James Jamerson and Duck Dunn these days. It moves me more. I like grooves. Funk. Soul. Real R&B. Groove.
I'm not saying Tool doesn't groove.. it's just not my groove.
And for the record, my favorite Rush record might be the one with John Rutsey on drums, the one with "What You're Doing", "Finding My Way", and "Working Man". More of a groove.
No worries. We all evolve and develop different tastes. I created this thread in humor, hoping to have a crazy and passionate range of opinion. Was not disappointed. Music is a personal subject. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Fish:
No worries. We all evolve and develop different tastes. I created this thread in humor, hoping to have a crazy and passionate range of opinion. Was not disappointed. Music is a personal subject.
Yeah MTG may have already died from the stroke he had earlier