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Nzoner's Game Room>It’s official: Pats were always Tom Brady. Not Bill Belichick.
Prison Bitch 07:50 PM 10-25-2020
Bill falls to 2-4 without Brady.

Brady goes to 5-2 with Tampa, turning them into a title contender immediately.

Tampa had the #1 SRS (points above avg team) in the NFL of +13.1. And that was before they trashed the Fighting Chuckies today.
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Buehler445 10:01 PM 10-26-2020
Right. Belicheat won 11 games with Cassholio and missed the playoffs.

Let's go through their schedule.

They beat us with God fucking Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards. One of the worst teams ever. Hoo fucking ray.
Beat the Jets
Lost to the Dolphins
Beat the 9ers when Smith was at his worst
Lost to the Chargers who were meh. Someone had to win the division.
Beat the shit ass Donko bitchcunts. Was that the Teblows year?
Beat the hapless Bills
Got dumped by the Jets
Beat the Phins.
Beat the pre-Russ Seahags
Beat the Faid
Beat the garbage Cards
Beat the hapless Bills.

Other than that first Jets win (when they probably filmed them the week before because Cheatriot) There isn't a great win on there.

Yeah, Cassholio won 11 games, but ghey were shit games AND they missed the playoffs. Plus he was throwing to Moss, Stallworth and Prime Welker.

Remember that Cassholio went to the playoffs under Haley (who is a shit coach in his own right).

I don't have a particular dog in this fight, I'm just sick of dudes holding up Cassholio winning 11 games as some goddamned coaching Mt Everest.

As if we've forgotten, the AFCE was a buttfucking joke.
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eDave 10:28 PM 10-26-2020
Andy get more love now that we have Mahomes.
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Prison Bitch 10:58 PM 10-26-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
QB's are much, much more important than coaches.

Funny how our fan base could see that firsthand with Alex Smoth for 5 years and forgets it all.
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RaidersOftheCellar 12:05 AM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by JD10367:
And how many rings did Reid have?

People who bring up Belichick's Browns seasons don't really look at the facts. The Browns suck. They've always sucked. They've had a whopping 3 winning seasons since 1990: 9 wins under Butch Davis, 10 wins under Romeo Crennel, and 11 wins under Belichick. Before the 11-5 season, Belichick had them winning 6, 7, and 7 games. He was clearly progressing them in the right direction. He beat Bill Parcells and the Patriots in the playoffs. And then the news came out about the team moving and it was all over.
Is this clown serious with this?

The Browns were a perennial winner and had one down year before Belichick took over. Then they moved and the franchise had a few more shitty years under a nobody coach before hiring a decent coach and winning the SB and becoming a perennial winner again. With crappy QBs.

Love how this guy compares to the new Browns, as if they have any relevance.
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CarlosCarson27 12:18 AM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by JD10367:
And how many rings did Reid have?

People who bring up Belichick's Browns seasons don't really look at the facts. The Browns suck. They've always sucked. They've had a whopping 3 winning seasons since 1990: 9 wins under Butch Davis, 10 wins under Romeo Crennel, and 11 wins under Belichick. Before the 11-5 season, Belichick had them winning 6, 7, and 7 games. He was clearly progressing them in the right direction. He beat Bill Parcells and the Patriots in the playoffs. And then the news came out about the team moving and it was all over.
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Is this clown serious with this?

The Browns were a perennial winner and had one down year before Belichick took over. Then they moved and the franchise had a few more shitty years under a nobody coach before hiring a decent coach and winning the SB and becoming a perennial winner again. With crappy QBs.

Love how this guy compares to the new Browns, as if they have any relevance.
Putting Bill on the Browns was symbolism. The Browns were the Original dynasty. They owned the 1940s to the 1960s. He had to there for baptism into new England to have the second greatest dynasty
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tredadda 06:35 AM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
Only because of the rings.
And raw stats. He is Top 10 all time in both passing yards and TDs.
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tyecopeland 07:24 AM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by tredadda:
And raw stats. He is Top 10 all time in both passing yards and TDs.
Didn't know that.
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milkshock 07:44 AM 10-27-2020
Reminds me of Chuck Noll.

Part of a dynasty yes, but not the critical element by any means. Not one of the all time greats.

I would go even further and rate Reid as superior.
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ThaVirus 09:51 AM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
We should be glad he didn’t choose Vegas. He’d have made them a SB threat too.


Of course folks here would be all “Dude Vegas was loaded with talent. Top RB, great TE, and speed WR, I mean like bro who COULDNT make them 12-4”?
LV does have a loaded offense. They've got, possibly, the best OL in the league, Josh Jacobs, Darren Waller, Henry Ruggs and a much better version of Agholor. Their defense is still crap, though.

You drop any HOF QB on even an average roster and you've suddenly got a SB contender on your hands.
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Chief Roundup 04:22 PM 10-27-2020
This year Tom Brady is 22cd in completion %, he is 21st in yards per attempt and 6th in passing attempts. Very pedestrian numbers for a QB that use to be the GOAT. Especially with the RB that is 4th in yards.
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CarlosCarson27 04:28 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
This year Tom Brady is 22cd in completion %, he is 21st in yards per attempt and 6th in passing attempts. Very pedestrian numbers for a QB that use to be the GOAT. Especially with the RB that is 4th in yards.
Won't matter till playoffs
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Kyle DeLexus 11:24 AM 10-31-2020
For all saying BB is sub .500 without Brady, you still have to factor in the Matt Cassel season. They went 11-5 with that flaming piece of garbage.

Then again Todd Haley went 10-6 in 2010 with that same flaming piece of garbage so who fucking knows.
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RaidersOftheCellar 11:37 AM 10-31-2020
Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus:
For all saying BB is sub .500 without Brady, you still have to factor in the Matt Cassel season. They went 11-5 with that flaming piece of garbage.

Then again Todd Haley went 10-6 in 2010 with that same flaming piece of garbage so who ****ing knows.
Exactly. He won one more game than Haley with a roster that went 16-0 the year before.
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Just Passin' By 04:58 PM 10-31-2020
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
So because they were under .500 (7-9 mind you) Chris godwin and Mike Evans aren't great wrs? Barrett, jpp. Vea, suh aren't good players because the team finished a game below. 500?
They weren't good enough to get the team above .500 with Jameis Winston. QBs matter. The Patriots are getting a stark reminder of that fact.
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Just Passin' By 05:13 PM 10-31-2020
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
Your only example that a great qb wins a championship with a bad coach is 9 td 17 int peyton manning winning with the Broncos. I'm still waiting for a real example of a great qb leading a team with a bad coach.
It really depends on how you're defining "bad coach". Manning's already been mentioned, as have Rodgers and Young, so I'll skip them. But I'll toss out a couple more elite QBs who won in the full free agency era with coaching that's definitely not looked back upon as all world.

Aikman (Switzer)
Favre (Holmgren)
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