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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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BleedingRed 11:20 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
As an interesting hypothetical for those strongly in the "open everything up" camp:

Would you welcome a group of 10 tourists from NYC to come and dine at your favorite restaurant in your community next week? If not, what restrictions would you want to remain in place?
I wouldn't give a shit because I wouldn't go to a restaurant. Go for it.......
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DaFace 11:21 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
I wouldn't give a shit because I wouldn't go to a restaurant. Go for it.......
You literally never go to restaurants? You're weirder than I even realized.
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BigCatDaddy 11:22 AM 05-05-2020
[QUOTE=SAUTO;14954113]
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
You're 100% wrong, the same amount of people would be infected regardless of efforts put in place. Experts have said this over and over and over again.[/QUOTE


link? because that makes no sense at all.
"If all you do is flatten the curve, you don't prevent deaths or severe cases. You just change the dates. We don't want to do that," Katz said.

Dr. David Katz
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BleedingRed 11:22 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
You literally never go to restaurants? You're weirder than I even realized.
No I order take out, I live in Texas and can order a gallon of frozen margarita's to go.......
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Donger 11:23 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
I wouldn't give a shit because I wouldn't go to a restaurant. Go for it.......
Would you give a shit if one of the workers at that restaurant goes grocery shopping five days later and infects a family member?
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DaFace 11:23 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I have heard several say focus on deaths and hospitalizations and not necessarily cases.
Do you have a good source for trend data on hospitalizations? I like that one as a balance between deaths and cases, but I haven't seen a good source for it.
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Baby Lee 11:23 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
So people screaming at the inaccuracies of the COVID models and guestimates are going all in on the financial models and guestimates.
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Interesting observation.
SO economic modeling is just as murky and unknown as novel pandemic modeling.

Now do climate. . . .
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BleedingRed 11:24 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Would you give a shit if one of the workers at that restaurant goes grocery shopping five days later and infects a family member?
No I wouldn't give a shit, but then again I'm not afraid of my own shadow.
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Baby Lee 11:25 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
So people screaming at the inaccuracies of the COVID models and guestimates are going all in on the financial models and guestimates.
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Interesting observation.
So economic modeling is exactly as murky and hypothetical as novel pandemic modeling.

Now do climate. . . .
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DaFace 11:25 AM 05-05-2020
Whoa, IHME just updated their state data with all sorts of crazy new stuff. Not sure what any of it really means, but it's fun to explore for the chart geeks.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...erica/colorado
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FloridaMan88 11:25 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
As an interesting hypothetical for those strongly in the "open everything up" camp:

Would you welcome a group of 10 tourists from NYC to come and dine at your favorite restaurant in your community next week? If not, what restrictions would you want to remain in place?
As long as they were not in a high risk group or were not exposing themselves to people in a high risk group (i.e. visiting a nursing home), I would 100% welcome them and their positive impact on the local economy.
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DaFace 11:26 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
So economic modeling is exactly as murky and hypothetical as novel pandemic modeling.

Now do climate. . . .
Not sure the relevance, but yes, climate modeling is iffy as well. Past trends are a lot more clear on that one, but predicting the future is tough no matter what the subject.
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petegz28 11:27 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
As an interesting hypothetical for those strongly in the "open everything up" camp:

Would you welcome a group of 10 tourists from NYC to come and dine at your favorite restaurant in your community next week? If not, what restrictions would you want to remain in place?
Bring them on in. What we know now is this following:

They've had it and recovered
They don't have it
They are perpetually asymptotic

If I get it I will most likely be fine
If I get it I have a better chance of being asymptomatic than sypmtomatic
I won't get it


For restrictions I would have my bussers wear masks and gloves and ask servers to insure they aren't getting up in someone's face when they talk and wear gloves when they serve the food.
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Donger 11:28 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
No I wouldn't give a shit, but then again I'm not afraid of my own shadow.
Excellent.
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O.city 11:31 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Whoa, IHME just updated their state data with all sorts of crazy new stuff. Not sure what any of it really means, but it's fun to explore for the chart geeks.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...erica/colorado
They did MO's with all the relaxation of stuff and it didn't seem to change a lot? Am I reading that right?
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