Interesting article here. Not a huge fan of Verderame but he was at the Super Bowl and he does go to the combine. I think he gets some tips, albeit from Terez (who is a nice guy).
Here is the most interesting part of the article. 2021 and 2022 would be extremely difficult to manage.
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What the Chiefs can do with their money
Looking at Kansas City’s cap situation, it can release wide receiver Sammy Watkins and linebacker Damien Wilson, clearing out $18.5 million in space. Combined with rollover money and already existing room, that’s enough cash for Veach to tag Jones, re-sign a few other pending free agents and extend Patrick Mahomes.
Speaking of Mahomes, the 24-year-old quarterback is likely to soon be the highest-paid player in the league. This is another important factor to consider.
Let’s play GM for a moment and do the following to the Chiefs’ roster:
•Cut Sammy Watkins
•Cut Damien Wilson
•Cut Cam Erving
Extend Patrick Mahomes on a five-year, $200 million deal
Use franchise tag on Chris Jones
Allow $10 million for free agents and draft picks
Keep $2 million in emergency space
Using the Jared Goff and Carson Wentz extension structures as a template, Mahomes’ cap hit would approximately be $11 million this season. Factor in Jones’ tag and the $12 million outlined above, and Kansas City is laying out $35 million.
The Chiefs could do it. But while it’s palatable for 2020, what about 2021 and beyond?
If Kansas City gave Mahomes the aforementioned extension, his cap number would be enormous in 2021, potentially the full $40 million figure. If the Chiefs also signed Jones to Clark’s exact deal, the cap number would be $22.7 million in 2021.
If we account for a slight rise in the NFL salary cap both this year and next, it’ll be around $210 million. Under these parameters, Kansas City would be looking at the following cap hits in 2021:
Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.
Going into this offseason with a projected $200 million salary cap, only one team is currently allocating more than 50 percent to their top five players: the Los Angeles Rams at 54 percent.
Kansas City can always create cap space with extensions and releases, but tying up such a large chunk of money in five players is dangerous. The Chiefs would be largely unable to sign any other meaningful free agents for a few years — including their own — while being completely reliant on the draft to restock departing talent.
In his three years at the helm, Veach has proven to believe in acquiring top-shelf talent and filling in around them with low-cost, high-upside veteran deals (see: Damien Williams, Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pennel) and rookie deals.
Jones certainly fits Veach’s profile. The question is if he fits into Kansas City’s payroll.
I hate trading elite level players. You may have to here in this situation, but damn. You draft and develop a guy into a top what, 2 or 3 player at his position in the league, he dominates for you and you win a SB.
Then you wanna trade away that young player? That sucks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I hate trading elite level players. You may have to here in this situation, but damn. You draft and develop a guy into a top what, 2 or 3 player at his position in the league, he dominates for you and you win a SB.
Then you wanna trade away that young player? That sucks.
Veach has a plan and the only thing we know about that plan is he didn’t want a new deal for Jones to start last season.
Not sure how he’ll make it work, but it will be fascinating to see. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Nate Taylor said on the Times Ours podcast that there are rumors that there are multiple teams that are willing to give up a 1st and more.
Of course there are. He's an elite player.
Maybe it just is what it is at this point and you've gotta do what you gotta do, but fuck, that's a real dick kick to lose a guy like that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I would rather lose:
Watkins
LDT
Sorensen
Colquitt
Erving
All of those guys are easily replaceable.
It’s all going to depend on what Jones wants. If he wants $20 million a season....then I don’t see us keeping him.
I get it. Some of those guys need to be replaced and i'd much rather pay Jones elite money and get an elite player than those guys, save Sorenson. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I get it. Some of those guys need to be replaced and i'd much rather pay Jones elite money and get an elite player than those guys, save Sorenson.
Some of those guys already have a replacement on the roster. And I’m trying to think about Sorenson without sticking on those two plays in the Houston game. He’s making too much money to be a third safety. [Reply]
If you keep Jones, you're committing to a couple of stars and a bunch of JAGs.
It's the just the economic reality.
if you tag and trade for a #1 plus another top 90 pick you've increased your ability to draft more good young talent, and you've got an extra $20 million to sign a couple good solid veteran starters.
And you may field a better overall defense.
I don't know what Veach's plan is, and I trust him to make the right call, but it is what it is. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
If you keep Jones, you're committing to a couple of stars and a bunch of JAGs.
It's the just the economic reality.
if you tag and trade for a #1 plus another top 90 pick you've increased your ability to draft more good young talent, and you've got an extra $20 million to sign a couple good solid veteran starters.
And you may field a better overall defense.
I don't know what Veach's plan is, and I trust him to make the right call, but it is what it is.
Problem is, you're losing a real difference maker. Best player on your defense etc.
When you get in January games and such, as we've seen, you need difference makers. It may just not be feasible to keep Jones, and if that's the case, get what you can and wish him luck elsewhere. [Reply]
The trade offer has to be killer I think to move on. This isn’t Dee Ford, this is a dude who kills QBs and bats down multiple passes in crunch time of a Super Bowl.
I’m starting to think they should say no to anything less than a 1st and 2nd. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
If you keep Jones, you're committing to a couple of stars and a bunch of JAGs.
It's the just the economic reality.
if you tag and trade for a #1 plus another top 90 pick you've increased your ability to draft more good young talent, and you've got an extra $20 million to sign a couple good solid veteran starters.
And you may field a better overall defense.
I don't know what Veach's plan is, and I trust him to make the right call, but it is what it is.
Good example: you could...
Sign Chris Jones
Or
Sign Kendall Fuller, Emmanuel Ogbah and receive a 1st and 3rd rd compensation [Reply]
It’s like you guys didn’t even read the article. It was never about the money. Both sides agreed on money. It was when the contract would begin. Jones wanted it to start last year and chiefs wanted it to start this year. Guess what that problem is now gone. I expect Jones to get a long term deal similar to Clark’s deal [Reply]