Veach pointed out CB & OL being deep in the draft, IMO Unless they are a freak athlete defensive prospect then the Chiefs will draft more than OL.
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Yeah, I told you why I'm not bothering. It'll eventually circle back around to "BLABLABLA YOU CANT REPLACE ALL THE STARTERS ON THE OFFENSIVE LINE" even though I've never said that's what I'd like, or "welp son, Veach is just going to do so and so so you might as well accept it." It's pointless.
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what's pointless is throwing shit without offering options.

Just stay out if you have no opinion other than "YOUR PLAN SUCKS"

How about- "Rather than Peters I'd like player X"

"I don't think Osemele plays again. I'd like to sign player Y to a cheap veteran deal instead"

When all you do is throw shit you're just an asshole.
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I'll tell you this-

If Jason Peters passes a physical at age 39, he's a better player than Remmers has ever been in his life.

and I wouldn't want to depend on either starting 19 games.

AND-furthermore, the best case scenario would be that Peters wouldn't play at all. You're planning on Fisher and Schwartz being good to go day one. You're planning on Niang being ready to play if either falters. Peters is your plan 'C'. There's really no downside at all.
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Well, yeah, but when I get the same results either way I'll go the smarmy asshole route every time.
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If your default position is smarmy asshole...then I hate to tell you...

argue your point or stay out of it.

I don't mind a spirited argument. I don't mind people disagreeing with me. I despise shit throwers.
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Here's some of your quotes from earlier in the thread.

I absolutely realize that you've said the Chiefs should draft someone like Rashawn Slater and sign a FA center and guard:

But when you read all of those quotes above (and that's just a few of them, by the way) you absolutely shit on the idea of starting Fisher, Schwartz, Wylie, LDT, and Niang. Reiter is a free agent.

So yeah, either you DO want to replace pretty much the entire line or you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

You have to be fair about what you've said, dude. The reason the argument always ends up back here is because YOU said this stuff, not anybody else.
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Yeah Veach mentioned fixing the lines, but with them projecting both tackles back, it would appear that taking an OL early would be a bench warmer. I’m fine with that if a stud falls to us but it isn’t likely.

Think about this: our OL struggled bc of injuries and opt outs. They were fine in week 1. Meanwhile our DL was mentioned as “a strength of the team” with quality depth and talent and they just did not perform. Wharton was awesome and Danna was a nice surprise as a rotational player but the unit overall was very underwhelming.

I think you can translate Veach’s comments down to these points:

-we have to rush the passer better
-we need depth on the OL and more flexibility
-we need to be stronger

LDT, Rankin, Fisher and Schwartz are all in contract years. We need to draft to replace a couple of these guys to go along with Niang.
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If you're not going to bullshit me, currently all I'd like to see them do is sign Linsley/draft Humphrey and trade up a bit for Vera-Tucker. That gives you the versatility you'd need in all scenarios, regardless of if Fisher and Schwartz can return to form or not, and it gives you both bookends of the future with Tucker and Niang since I really don't see a pathway to Fisher being with us after this season. If he has complications with the Achilles it's really hard to factor him in to future plans and if he returns and plays to his usual level he'll price himself out of an extension with us, especially with the looming cap boom. As for veteran back ups I'd say with the cap cuts looming across the NFL there'll be a glut of competent veteran linemen without injury concerns as severe as Peters and Osemele.
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Now that's absolutely fair.

I don't agree with trading up, especially not for Vera-Tucker, but it's a realistic plan.
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I think even the people here I've had spirited arguments with would agree that I always argue in honest good faith. It's one reason I never use a pseudonym online.

I don't hate your plan. I'm not into trading up really, as I think we need to fill a few spots and should keep as many picks as possible. I'd rather trade down if possible and pick up another 3rd ideally.

But your plan is realistic and worth discussion.
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Two things to keep in mind-

Reid typically drafts college OT's and then moves them where he projects them to play best. I don't know when the last drafted OL wasn't an OT in college regardless of where they played in the NFL. Clearly there are OT skills that Reid prefers regardless.

Also, Reid has said repeatedly that he believes in playing the best 5 guys. So drafting an OT early and playing them at G doesn't mean it's a waste or that they'll stay there next season, it just means they were one of the 5 best guys. So you might get an OT early who plays at G in 2021. That's okay and doesn't mean they won't take an OT spot in 2022 when Schwartz maybe retires or moves on for example. Or if Fisher's not good to go. Just saying.
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You're asking for too much, Dude.

No NFL team can pay 5 guys at the top of the market at varying positions while having the greatest offensive line in the NFL.

There will always be concessions made by teams because it's impossible to pay everyone their market value and be under the salary cap.

Guys like Reiter and Wylie are fine when they're next to players like Fisher and Schwartz and at one time, LDT. But you're never going to have "5 Studs" on the offensive line unless you're willing to sacrifice more important positions such as DE, Safety, CB, WR and TE.
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Well, that's why I advocate moving OL up in priority within the draft. You don't have to have #1's everywhere, but mid-round interior guys are going to have more upside than UDFA's typically speaking.

I know we're not going to be able to be the top line in football, but we clearly have some weak spots. A better line makes your skill talent better too, you know.

Hell I'm fine with Alegretti in there at LG if we upgrade at Center.
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I just could not disagree more.

This team won 14 games with multiple backups at LG, RG and RT.
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