To start off:
I'm a HUGE Metallica fan. In fact my first 5 years of playing electric guitar was solely based on Metallica. I started off playing Bluegrass guitar with my dad, even though my soul wasn't bluegrass.
My first exposure to Metallica was hearing "Nothing Else Matters" on MTV before school waiting for my buddy to pick me up for school. I asked my brother if he had ever heard of them, and of course he had. He handed me a tape that had zero information of it. in that all the 'font' (for lack of a better word) was gone. It was a simple 'blank" tape. It was weathered, and the only thing I could determine that it was a Metallica tape was simply my brother's word. It was Master of Puppets Within 4 weeks, I had owned everything of Metallica and had thrown bluegrass by the wayside.
Long loving Metallica fan for years; devoted. Having heard Megadeth and loving a few of their songs, I was still committed to Metallica. However, years later, I've discovered that I may have been premature in my categorization of music.
Years had passed since I had really 'listened' to Megadeth. Years, as in 10+. Then, I stumbled upon a Megadeth record. While it escapes my memory at this point, the collective memory of the tunes has lead me to the belief that Megadeth is better than Metalica.
While some, to what degree I don't know, may have always held this belief, the discovery of Megadeth is a new one for me. After listening to many records, Im beginning to feel more confident in saying that Megadeth is better. Obviously, it's subjective.
Metallica's "Black" Album is equivalent to Pink Floy'd "The Wall" in terms of impact. However, Megadeth's "Symphony of Destruction", has been severely over-shadowed by the 'Black" album of Metallica. Subsequently, as it had been up to that point, Megadeth had fallen by the wayside. "Symphony of Destructions' release around the same time, was over-shadowed by the Black album.
After what was a universal success of the Black album, Megadeth seemed to finally have received the kill shot. But, if we are to look at the records and time frame comparatively, I think Megadeth got the short end of the stick.
Since then, Megadeth has sustained their status despite radio and marketing support. I've listened to several Megadeth albums/tunes from the "Black" album going forward, and I must say they are not getting the credit that is due. In some aspects, they blow Metallica out of the water. To be honest, they are quickly surpassing Metallica.
I've always been a huge fan of Megadeth since the Mechanix type songs. But since Peace Sells Who's Buying album, Megadeth has gotten the shaft. By a LONG shot.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Industrial is the genre. Some of it is metal some of it not.
I kind of get it, I was just saying I'm not a genre nazi like Reaper was. i just know what I like and it often involves heavy beats and a lot of repitition. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by patteeu:
I kind of get it, I was just saying I'm not a genre nazi like Reaper was. i just know what I like and it often involves heavy beats and a lot of repitition. :-)
Dude, I participate in a lot of metal groups and you have no idea. Genres are out of control and there's a lot of people that get flat out offended if you don't know the difference between blackened deathcore and death grind.
Might as well just call it was it is - the taxonomy of music. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Baseline of "My Friend of Misery" is pretty badass...
I don’t have any memory of posting that, but it was 6 years ago. I don’t really disagree with it, but it is kind of unfair. I stopped listening once the black album came out so he could’ve gone on to do some great things and I would have no idea. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Third Eye:
I don’t have any memory of posting that, but it 6 was years ago. I don’t really disagree with it, but it is kind of unfair. I stopped listening once the black album came out so he could’ve gone on to do some great things and I would have no idea.
I stopped listening after they screwed Newsted and mixed him out of AJFA. There's very few people in the music industry I like less than Lars and James. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Third Eye:
Yes! That version of So What is killer.
Hell yes! Chris Connelly killed it.
I am so glad we have the ability to instantly watch/listen these days. My VHS and cassettes, along with a couple of boxes of flyers from The Outhouse were lost in a flood years ago. Sucks about the flyers, but thankfully people have digitized the audio/video :-)
Originally Posted by Third Eye:
I don’t have any memory of posting that, but it was 6 years ago. I don’t really disagree with it, but it is kind of unfair. I stopped listening once the black album came out so he could’ve gone on to do some great things and I would have no idea.
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
That entire album, at least for me, is freaking amazing. The production is flawless and everyone's playing at the top of their game.
Rust In Peace was a really great album but it just sounds too mushy for my ears. I greatly prefer the "tightness" of Countdown.
Countdown is GREAT.
"Skin Of My Teeth", "Foreclosure of a Dream", "Symphony of Destruction", and my personal favorite "High Speed Dirt". [Reply]
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
It's on the Black Album.
I’m aware. Not because I remember anything from that forgettable album, but because I looked it up after you posted it. My comment was more in general and not in response to the song you posted. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Countdown is GREAT.
"Skin Of My Teeth", "Foreclosure of a Dream", "Symphony of Destruction", and my personal favorite "High Speed Dirt".
I had just moved to northern California in the summer of 1993 with my bass player and drummer when I first got into that album. My best friend, bassist and roommate used to pull dopey scams all the time, including making up fake names for Columbia House Record Club and BMG Record Club.
I thought he was just joking but sure enough, 10 CD's arrived a few weeks after we rented our apartment and since we worked at the Berkeley Guitar Center, which was about 25 minutes from our pad, we listened to those CD's everyday.
Countdown To Extinction became a mainstay and we probably listened to it every day that summer on the commute, so not only do I have fond memories of being broke and making the best out of a bad situation (long story short, I was writing with a singer that had been previously signed and was a Bay area "Legend", so I moved up there at the behest of Vicki Hamilton of Geffen Records, only to have the singer bail after 2 months, forcing me to move back to LA), it is still an amazing album to boot.
While it's a bit "thin" sounding for my taste, Max Norman made it work perfectly and Marty's guitars are outright awesome.
Footnote: One of the other CD's he got with that scam was Bleach by Nirvana. We put that CD on and immediately looked at each other like "What the FUCK?!!!".
IMO, Butch Vig will never receive enough credit for making Nirvana appealing to the masses. [Reply]
Originally Posted by patteeu:
I don’t know what sub-genres are involved, but I’m with you. I’ll take peak Ministry over peak Metallica or Megadeth, although I do like all three.
Originally Posted by :
Hi. You don’t know me, but perhaps you have noticed me, as I have noticed you. Frankly in a scene this small, I have a hard time believing that you do not know of me. Well allow me to introduce myself. My name is Mark, also known at Metallica Mark, and for the past 6 years I have established myself as the guy who always wears a vintage Ride the Lightning t-shirt to shows. It is a shirt I can see you are familiar with. You are wearing one right now.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I stopped listening after they screwed Newsted and mixed him out of AJFA. There's very few people in the music industry I like less than Lars and James.
I remember Jason said he came up with the bassline for My Friend Of Misery and hoped it would become an instrumental song like on their previous albums.But no,they took it and made it their own song,which its a good song,but damn.On the one hand they did screw Jason,because they were young and dumb and missed Cliff,but they also made him rich.I dunno,i miss his stage presence with the band,during their shows.The thing i remember most of the Black Album is those Year and Half in The Life videos,they clearly had a difficult time working with Bob Rock,but eventually made the album they wanted. [Reply]
