Originally Posted by DenverChief:
Wait... so you are saying that in a DE, DT, DT, DE set up that the OLB is the equivalent of the DE? Why even bother with the DE? Just call him another DT. I think you are confused.
Do you really not understand that a 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB are both edge rushers? I didn’t think I’d actually have to explain this to you.
Why do you think teams move their DEs to OLB when transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and vice versa? The 49ers traded for Ford, previously a 3-4 OLB his entire career to put at the WDE in a 4-3 because they require close to identical skill sets.
Originally Posted by Raiderhader:
Yes, Dorsey was the GM that selected Mahomes - AFTER Veach constantly harassed him and Reid about the kid. This is documented fact. With out Veach Mahomes may well be making some other team a contender right now and our orgasms would be few and of the grunting variety instead of multiple and scream inducing.
Lol, you actually bought that propaganda piece? [Reply]
Originally Posted by YontsRBake:
Do you really not understand that a 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB are both edge rushers? I didn’t think I’d actually have to explain this to you.
Why do you think teams move their DEs to OLB when transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and vice versa? The 49ers traded for Ford, previously a 3-4 OLB his entire career to put at the WDE in a 4-3 because they require close to identical skill sets.
I can’t tell if you’re actually srs.
Move the goal posts much? Starts with Hardon for DE moves to edge rushers. What's next CB/S that rushes from the edge? [Reply]
Originally Posted by YontsRBake:
The fact that’s he’s had a good group of pass rushers every time he’s had a successful defense and a weaker pass rushing core every time he hasn’t is not something to be ignored no matter what he’s drafting and going after in FA. Okafor, Chris Jones, Breeland Speaks is closer to what he had on the Saints than what he did on the Giants.
Justin Tuck, Osi, and Strahan were more of the reason that defense won the SB and held the best offense in history to 14 points in the SB moreso than Sam Madison, Gibril, and Aaron Ross. Do you disagree with that?
Saints barely fit into the conversation since that was Bountygate. He had good DEs in 2011, and nothing special at CB in St. Louis. In 2016, the #2 defense had a lot more to do with the secondary (Collins, Apple, Jenkins - outstanding) than the DEs. Of course he had something special in 2008 with his pass rushers. That doesn't make what he's doing here wrong. Spags basically decided to have a balanced defense vs. put every single dollar on our DL. That could change as the years go on. But I'd sure as hell rather see a bunch of average guys than 3 world beaters and giant piles of shit everywhere else.
And that's not even getting into if that would still work in a modern defense. Especially in a game where QBs are trying to get rid of the ball super fast and CBs and LBs have to play with so much range. [Reply]
Originally Posted by YontsRBake:
Right, let’s focus on one play when the defense as a whole played like trash cause Sutton was once again lost. Let’s scapegoat our most productive defensive player and trade him for a 2nd in two years then sign career unproductive players for close to the same amount of money. (Adding Okafor to whatever trash CB we overpay)
Of course fans who can’t see beyond hE CoSt uS tHe sB tHo can’t see why an actually intelligent GM like John Lynch jumped all over that trade and immediately paid him. hE wAs oFfSiDeS tHo
Until he gets injured again which history says he will. [Reply]
