KU ***** Official 2018-2019 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ***** - Page 136

Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
14>13

Against far tougher competition.

Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
:-)!

It’s mind numbingly hilarious.

There are actual Kansas fans (KCC being one) that think Bill Self’s 14 straight conference title streak with one natty is more impressive than UCLA’s 13 straight conference title streak with 8 natty’s over that time span. Or UCLA’s 10 natty’s in 12 years!?!

I mean, what can you even do with that? You can’t even have a legit discussion with someone who actually believes that . . . . .
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk:
TTU is head and shoulders above all the other teams in this league.

Which is crazy, as they were a preseason pick to finish 7th in the Big XII
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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
It�s mind numbingly hilarious.

There are actual Kansas fans (KCC being one) that think Bill Self�s 14 straight conference title streak with one natty is more impressive than UCLA�s 13 straight conference title streak with 10 natty�s over that time span.

I mean, what can you even do with that? You can�t even have a legit discussion with someone who actually believes that . . . . .

Are y'all special? UCLA was a pro-team in the college game. Kansas's streak of 14 straight is more impressive than UCLA's 13. That really isn't debatable.

Now if you want to talk about the failings of some really damn good squads to win titles in that span, you have a legitimate point. KU should have had a couple more titles, at least.
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Originally Posted by RedRaider56:
Which is crazy, as they were a preseason pick to finish 7th in the Big XII

Which is why Beard is the easy choice for B12 COtY
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Originally Posted by ChiTown:
Which is why Beard is the easy choice for B12 COtY

Agreed.
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Why not Drew? He has nothing. Got to 10 wins in this league, no home court advantage, nothing. He’s my pick
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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Are y'all special? UCLA was a pro-team in the college game. Kansas's streak of 14 straight is more impressive than UCLA's 13. That really isn't debatable.

Now if you want to talk about the failings of some really damn good squads to win titles in that span, you have a legitimate point. KU should have had a couple more titles, at least.

Did they fail in the tournament? Or did Self get them to overachieve in the regular season?

I�d argue that 2007, 2010, 2011, 2016, and 2017 were teams that failed in the tournament. All of them were National Championship or bust teams (yet none even made the Final Four).

2005, 2006, 2009, 2013, and 2015 probably overachieved in the regular season.

2012 and 2018 probably overachieved in both the regular season and tournament.

2008 did what they should�ve done, since they were the best overall team in the nation.

2014 was a throwaway tourney IMO, since they were so dependent on Embiid. Once he was out, they were done.
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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
It�s mind numbingly hilarious.

There are actual Kansas fans (KCC being one) that think Bill Self�s 14 straight conference title streak with one natty is more impressive than UCLA�s 13 straight conference title streak with 8 natty�s over that time span. Or UCLA�s 10 natty�s in 12 years!?!

I mean, what can you even do with that? You can�t even have a legit discussion with someone who actually believes that . . . . .

The Tourney today bears no resemblance to what it was. During the 1960s UCLA reign, the tourney was about 20-25 teams and was split into 2 brackets East/West. As you prob know, basketball has always been most pppulsr in the Northeast, and then in the BIG region. It�s never been popular in the South or the West.

UCLA�s half of the draw was never strong since the West doesn�t care about basketball. They had a virtual bye into the Semis. They WERE the best team most of the time but they�d have been knocked off a few times if they played East teams.

Proof? Sagarin released his 100-year all time rankings in 2009. UCLA was #2. There are almost no teams west of KU. (Utah 19, USC 25, Stanford 30). It�s all Northeast-BIG 10.
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Why not Drew? He has nothing. Got to 10 wins in this league, no home court advantage, nothing. He�s my pick

Because Tech is going to finish no worse than 13-5 and 2nd in conference, and in the top 15 in the Country with a Team that no one would have guessed would be this strong.

Drew has been good, but a clear #2 behind Beard, IMO
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
And so ends the greatest run of consistent excellence NCAA basketball has ever seen. We'll never see anything like it again.

UCLA of the 60's and 70's say hi.

The Beakers are the Atlanta Braves of DI basketball.
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Originally Posted by Matrix:
UCLA of the 60's and 70's say hi.

The Beakers are the Atlanta Braves of DI basketball.

This post was brought to you by the letter "Q"
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Yeah anyone who thinks the conference streak is more impressive than John woodens fucking UCLA is a moron and there looks to be plenty in here
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Originally Posted by Matrix:
UCLA of the 60's and 70's say hi.

The Beakers are the Atlanta Braves of DI basketball.

Then UCLA was the Yankees of the 1950s.
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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
It�s mind numbingly hilarious.

There are actual Kansas fans (KCC being one) that think Bill Self�s 14 straight conference title streak with one natty is more impressive than UCLA�s 13 straight conference title streak with 8 natty�s over that time span. Or UCLA�s 10 natty�s in 12 years!?!

I mean, what can you even do with that? You can�t even have a legit discussion with someone who actually believes that . . . . .

I'm not one of them, I think UCLA was more impressive. But you acting incredulous about it shows you actually don't know a lot of the arguments, which are good ones.

The national title, for instance, was the same as going to the Sweet 16 back then.
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