Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Oh I like to look for an argument? And I guess you’re just the nicest most agreeable guy on CP. Strange how you’re always arguing with somebody still. At least I’ll actually acknowledge that I like to argue.
Have a nice day pussy.
all my days are nice.
you can still go eat a bag of dicks though. bitchass [Reply]
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
and i never sent an ass kissing PM.
i did see where we talked back and forth and then i said id like whatever hatchet between us to get buried but dont see how thats kissing your ass.
like i said , youre a dumb fuck
There was no hatchet to burry. I don’t hold any grudges on here. Nothing is personal to me. I can tell somebody they’re an idiot and then agree with them the next post. The fact that you felt there was one says more about how personal you take this stuff than me.
If this was a misunderstanding, then fine, but you’re acting like your post couldn’t have possibly been interpreted as you disagreeing when it’s clear that it could have. If he’s not running for President this year that could be an argument against what I was saying (even if it were wrong). You were also the first one to result to name calling. I’ve tried to refrain from that outside of the usual morons, but since you went there and it’s clearly personal for you on here, you can go fuck yourself.
I won’t hold a grudge though and there’s no hatchet to bury with me this time either hence me telling you not to PM me kissing my ass this time.
Here we go with your “I’m the ultimate tough guy on CP” routine.
You know how I know you’re a pussy? You act like you’re the baddest motherfucker on the planet. Anybody that really scraps knows there’s always somebody badder than you. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
There was no hatchet to burry. I don’t hold any grudges on here. Nothing is personal to me. I can tell somebody they’re an idiot and then agree with them the next day. The fact that you felt that were was one days more about how personal you take this stuff then me.
If this was a misunderstanding, then fine, but you’re acting like your post couldn’t have possibly been interpreted as you disagreeing when it’s clear that it could have. If he’s not running for President this year that could be an argument against what I was saying (even if it were wrong). You were also the first one to result to name calling. I’ve tried to refrain from that outside of the usual morons, but since you went there and it’s clearly personal for you on here, you can go fuck yourself.
I won’t hold a grudge though and there’s not hatchet to bury with me hence me telling you not to PM me kissing my ass this time.
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
What remains to be seen is what the legal environment will look like after we open up. With the US being so litigious I just hope we're not sending businesses and employees out for slaughter. What happens when customers and employees get coronavirus or clusters? How responsible is the business going to be? Will employees be able to get the right care if they get sick considering many are now "obligated" to work again? I'm all for opening the economy back up but I just hope those that do are taken care of. Part of me feels like some of this is punting off responsibility if anything goes wrong.
There could be some new precedents set especially in liberal venues but I would imagine it would be extremely difficult to hold a business liable for someone catching a virus. Every business open though would be well served by requiring all of their employees to use proper PPE. That could go a long way if such a suit was ever brought. It would also be difficult to prove exactly where the employee contracted the virus. Interesting nonetheless. [Reply]
Here we go with your “I’m the ultimate tough guy on CP” routine.
You know how I know you’re a pussy? You act like you’re the baddest motherfucker on the planet. Anybody that really scraps knows there’s always somebody badder than you.
oh im not the ultimate tough guy. not at all
but i aint scared of anyone. i've been beat down and came back for more many times, there's a lot of people tougher than i am. but i'm supremely confident in my abilities.
and i have really scrapped my whole life, i've always loved it. like nothing else has ever filled that except punching and getting punched.
but thats not for this thread. sorry to get it derailed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
you were looking to be mad.
it's ok.
You know what?
Maybe that came off that way because every time I say something against the groupthink that’s goes on in this thread, I’ve been met with a lot of bullshit and bias. This topic seems to make everybody want to argue and I’m in the middle here getting sick of how unreasonable the majority of the “good guys” are.
I mean just suggesting you don’t think it’s reasonable for everybody to hide inside for several months means you are ok with people dying and immoral. It’s ridiculous. [Reply]
Maybe that came off that way because every time I say something against the groupthink that’s goes on in this thread, I’ve been met with a lot of bullshit and bias. This topic seems to make everybody want to argue and I’m in the middle here getting sick of how unreasonable the majority of the “Pro-Life” (for this issue) crowd are.
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
oh im not the ultimate tough guy. not at all
but i aint scared of anyone. i've been beat down and came back for more many times, there's a lot of people tougher than i am. but i'm supremely confident in my abilities.
and i have really scrapped my whole life, i've always loved it. like nothing else has ever filled that except punching and getting punched.
but thats not for this thread. sorry to get it derailed.
Dude, I don’t seriously think you’re a pussy. For all I know you could be an MMA fighter that happens to be a Chiefs fan :-)
But I love to fight as well and don’t back down from anybody. Respect. [Reply]
