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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Demonpenz 10:56 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by notorious:
No shit, but it’s real.

I can’t wrap my mind around it, but you know there is some asshole out there that will blame someone else for their decision.
I think assumed risk is going to be built in on big ass events. Everyone is aware of this. Now smaller things who knows like one on one events.
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BleedingRed 10:57 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by Third Eye:
You literally just did that. You posted that this is an indicator that it is tapering out, which is in no way supported by that graphic.
Well ACTUALLY thats what the WHO is indicating by that line... So......
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BleedingRed 10:58 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by Pablo:
:-)

Bleeding Red isn't fairing so well outside of his DC safe space.
Ahhh one of my frequent customers.... Welcome back
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Donger 11:00 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Well ACTUALLY thats what the WHO is indicating by that line... So......
:-)
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BleedingRed 11:02 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
:-)
:-)
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Donger 11:03 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
:-)
That twice you've been wrong today alone. Going to try to make it three or more?
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SAUTO 11:04 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
No, dude. It's not. It is beyond fucking idiotic. Most people who abuse their children or spouses or drugs and alcohol for that matter are sick and have problems. whether it's anger, bipolar, addictions, whatever. They don't do it just because "they choose too".

I swear you are either a giant fucking idiot or you have never actually met a person or people in those situations.
ok pete, i've never met a drug addict or abuser...not once.


you fucking idiot.


many people in this world have anger, dependence, bipolar whatever and dont kill themselves or beat women and children. because they choose not to.
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BleedingRed 11:06 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
ok pete, i've never met a drug addict or abuser...not once.


you ****ing idiot.


many people in this world have anger, dependence, bipolar whatever and dont kill themselves or beat women and children. because they choose not to.
Off topic, but what were the rates of DV/Child abuse during Matt Cassel Vs Patrick Mahomes?

I bet there is a statistical difference.
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SAUTO 11:07 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
And people who are worried about the corona virus make a CHOICE to leave their house.
back to that huh?


not everyone can have someone wait on them hand and foot, no matter what you believe
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petegz28 11:09 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
ok pete, i've never met a drug addict or abuser...not once.


you ****ing idiot.


many people in this world have anger, dependence, bipolar whatever and dont kill themselves or beat women and children. because they choose not to.
Apparently you haven't. Or you are just so full of shit you have no fucking idea of what you're talking about in this case.
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IowaHawkeyeChief 11:09 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by Pablo:
:-)

Bleeding Red isn't fairing so well outside of his DC safe space.
We are trying to keep the petty BS out of this thread...:-)

:-)
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dirk digler 11:11 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Some people will view that and think it's showing a decline in cases.

As testing goes up and the positivity number goes down that is a good thing.
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R Clark 11:11 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
back to that huh?


not everyone can have someone wait on them hand and foot, no matter what you believe
Damn it I am disappointed, looking forward to staying den up and sitting on my ass
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srvy 11:14 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
There was a study published to NEJM with data taken from Columbia Presb. in New York.

1376 patients were enrolled in an observational trial for the use of hydroxychloroquine. The patients started on it were sicker than average, but this was adjusted for in the statistical analysis. The study found that there was no benefit from hydroxychloroquine in reducing either time to intubation or death.

Clinical guidance at our medical center has been updated to remove the suggestion that patients with Covid-19 be treated with hydroxychloroquine. In our analysis involving a large sample of consecutive patients who had been hospitalized with Covid-19, hydroxychloroquine use was not associated with a significantly higher or lower risk of intubation or death (hazard ratio, 1.04; 95% CI, 0.82 to 1.32). The study results should not be taken to rule out either benefit or harm of hydroxychloroquine treatment, given the observational design and the 95% confidence interval, but the results do not support the use of hydroxychloroquine at present, outside randomized clinical trials testing its efficacy.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410

It's the biggest single study I've seen on hydroxychloroquine use thus far, and, although not randomized, with the weight of other evidence I would argue that this makes a fairly strong case for a lack of efficacy.

What will happen next is that the people who still support using this drug will claim that it needs to be given earlier in treatment and/or with azithromycin.

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petegz28 11:18 AM 05-08-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
As testing goes up and the positivity number goes down that is a good thing.
How can cases go up if positivity goes down? Asking for a friend.....
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