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MTG#10 07:40 PM 06-16-2018
This album is tremendous from beginning to end, in my opinion a masterpiece and I dont use that word loosely. I can count the number of albums I like every single song on with one hand and this is one of them. A lot more mellow than their other albums but that's part of the reason I like it so much...part of this is probably coming with age as I'm now pushing 40. The craziest part for me is I have never been a huge APC fan until this album...I always liked a handful of their songs but I never got into them much.

Maynard always provides thought provoking lyrics and this album is no different. I challenge anyone to listen to it from beginning to end a couple times and tell me you dont enjoy it. Dont give up after the first track. While I very much enjoy it, its probably the weakest of the album.

Every track is good but here are some of my favorites.










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The Franchise 09:16 AM 06-20-2018
Check out Ashes Divide.


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SuperChief 11:01 AM 06-21-2018
Originally Posted by jd1020:
It just appeals to very few people.

Linkin Park tried it and never really recovered. Korn tried it and it was their least successful album. Chris Cornell tried it and while it ironically became his only solo album to debut in the top 10, it plummeted shortly after and got pretty negative reviews.

The biggest bands/names in the world cant sell that shit. Just stay away from the techno!
This is false. While I'm not one of those people, folks go nuts over that shit. I don't get it either.

NIN made a definitive, lasting impression from that sound. Trent Reznor scores movies because of that sound. To say it has no appeal is silly. It has no appeal to you.
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ModSocks 06-21-2018, 11:11 AM
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jd1020 12:43 PM 06-21-2018
Originally Posted by SuperChief:
This is false. While I'm not one of those people, folks go nuts over that shit. I don't get it either.

NIN made a definitive, lasting impression from that sound. Trent Reznor scores movies because of that sound. To say it has no appeal is silly. It has no appeal to you.
I'm not the biggest NIN fan so maybe I've missed it, but I've never heard anything coming out of that band that sounds like a robot singing or electronic DJ beats.

Sure techno music has a following, afterall guys like Skrillex make a pretty healthy living, but relatively speaking in the music industry its in the dumpsters.
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sedated 12:49 PM 06-21-2018
Originally Posted by SuperChief:
I bet the new Tool album (whenever the **** that comes out) is going to be insane.
It's been 12 years, there's little hope of that happening.
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ModSocks 12:58 PM 06-21-2018
Originally Posted by sedated:
It's been 12 years, there's little hope of that happening.
It's already been announced. It's coming next year.
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SuperChief 03:11 PM 06-21-2018
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
It's already been announced. It's coming next year.
Beat me to it.
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Swanman 03:17 PM 06-21-2018
Originally Posted by sedated:
It's been 12 years, there's little hope of that happening.
It was 14 years in between APC albums (if you exclude their covers album). Tool is currently tracking the different instruments for the new album and after that Maynard needs to do the vocals/mixing/etc. It will be out in 2019.
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DMAC 03:21 PM 06-21-2018
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
It's already been announced. It's coming next year.
Spoken like a true Chiefs fan.
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MTG#10 03:42 PM 06-21-2018
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Listened to the whole album on youtube and that "Hourglass" song can fuck right off.
One of my favorite tracks. And it sounds nothing like "techno" or dubstep. The chorus is somewhat of a "robot voice" as you call it but the rest of the song is very melodic and features Maynard's real voice.
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Third Eye 09:19 PM 06-21-2018
I keep trying to listen to this album. I keep failing because I get 3 or 4 songs in and find myself struggling to be even remotely interested. It just doesn’t grab me at all.

I’m afraid I’m going to feel the same about the next TOOL album as well. 10,000 Days was somewhat of a letdown and I don’t see how this one can even be that good.
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hometeam 06:32 AM 06-22-2018
Dunno why people take this album as such a departure from what this band does.. go back and re listen to the old albums, its the same shit.

Take a song like Orestes for example. You could put it right on this album and no one would know it wasn't recorded in the same decade.
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SuperChief 08:19 AM 06-22-2018
Originally Posted by Third Eye:
I keep trying to listen to this album. I keep failing because I get 3 or 4 songs in and find myself struggling to be even remotely interested. It just doesn’t grab me at all.

I’m afraid I’m going to feel the same about the next TOOL album as well. 10,000 Days was somewhat of a letdown and I don’t see how this one can even be that good.
I know this is all subjective, but 10,000 Days was a musical triumph, IMO. Right in Two is one of the best songs I've ever heard.

On a separate note, have any of you listened to any Tool covers? Notice how they're pretty close to the original, with slight variations coming in the form of harmonies or different instrumentation? I think that says a ton about the quality of the original pieces.



EDIT: Sorry to make this thread about Tool. Can't help it :-)
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DMAC 10:09 AM 06-22-2018
Originally Posted by Third Eye:
I keep trying to listen to this album. I keep failing because I get 3 or 4 songs in and find myself struggling to be even remotely interested. It just doesn’t grab me at all.

I’m afraid I’m going to feel the same about the next TOOL album as well. 10,000 Days was somewhat of a letdown and I don’t see how this one can even be that good.
Typically old rich men do not make the best rock or metal music.
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Third Eye 11:27 AM 06-22-2018
Originally Posted by SuperChief:
I know this is all subjective, but 10,000 Days was a musical triumph, IMO. Right in Two is one of the best songs I've ever heard.

On a separate note, have any of you listened to any Tool covers? Notice how they're pretty close to the original, with slight variations coming in the form of harmonies or different instrumentation? I think that says a ton about the quality of the original pieces.



EDIT: Sorry to make this thread about Tool. Can't help it :-)
For me, Rosetta Stoned is the best piece of music from 10,000 Days. Right in Two is probably my 2nd favorite, but it’s probably the most derivative song they’ve ever done. Granted, it’s mostly self-derivative, but whatever. On the whole, it’s the only album of theirs that doesn’t feel like a cohesive whole, it just feels like a collection of unrelated songs. Easily my least favorite. To each his own though.
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SuperChief 02:53 PM 06-22-2018
Originally Posted by Third Eye:
For me, Rosetta Stoned is the best piece of music from 10,000 Days. Right in Two is probably my 2nd favorite, but it’s probably the most derivative song they’ve ever done. Granted, it’s mostly self-derivative, but whatever. On the whole, it’s the only album of theirs that doesn’t feel like a cohesive whole, it just feels like a collection of unrelated songs. Easily my least favorite. To each his own though.
Rosetta Stoned is the last song on the album I got into - boy, was that a mistake. It's so damn good. Heavy, intense. All of that.

I get your feel on the cohesive part. Although Lateralus is the perfect example of what an album can be as a Sum, I typically don't care/bother to listen to music in that fashion. Single songs are fine by me. Maybe that's why I like 10,000 Days so much - Vicarious, Jambi, The Pot, Right in Two, Rosetta Stoned - all god-tier songs.
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