Football The overrated Browns defense - Page 5

I just heard Dan Patrick say that Browns defense might be better than their offense (which is absurd). A lot of people seem to think their defense is going to be great.

Where did this idea that they have a great defense come from? They had the 30th ranked D last year. They weren’t quite as bad as us, but they weren’t that much better either. Is it because of Myles Garrett? The additions of Sheldon Richardson and Olivier Vernon? Two very overrated players?

I just don’t see it. I think we made more improvements than they did on defense, but the national media just assumes our defense is going to suck again.

I already hate this fucking team and I hope we play them in the playoffs.
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I like Baker as a player. He's extremely accurate and has a nice arm. All the QB stuff is good.

But fuck man, I get being confident and all, but come on. He's a shitheel.
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Originally Posted by O.city:
I like Baker as a player. He's extremely accurate and has a nice arm. All the QB stuff is good.

But fuck man, I get being confident and all, but come on. He's a shitheel.

He's every reality show contestant that shouts "I'm not here to make friends!!!" and is pretty much just a complete prick. Ask yourself this - have you ever met a person who has said "okay, I'm gonna go here...." and then been happy to have continued that conversation?

People who fancy themselves unvarnished truth tellers are usually just assholes.

THAT'S RIGHT, I SAID IT!

/StevenASmith
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Originally Posted by O.city:
I like Baker as a player. He's extremely accurate and has a nice arm. All the QB stuff is good.

But **** man, I get being confident and all, but come on. He's a shitheel.

Being loud doesn’t make you confident

It’s all about performance. Everything else is just noise
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I think it’s the opposite actually.

Mayfield’s actions reek of insecurity IMO.

Real confidence doesn’t look like that at all
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They are the next version of all those overarrated 8-8 Charger teams...
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Yes, I know that will cause butthurt for Contrarian King
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Originally Posted by staylor26:
I think it’s the opposite actually.

Mayfield’s actions reek of insecurity IMO.

Real confidence doesn’t look like that at all

:-) Nailed it!
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
IF we'd have ended up with Mayfield instead of Mahomes this board would be loving the kid..

You're way off base here.
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For your viewing pleasure: Baker Mayfield attempting to throw left pic.twitter.com/OjiRd7Ak6A
— george (@thegeorgeyou) August 20, 2019

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Browns D has looks solid tonight but Mayfield, as I expected, was total garbage. This guy will be a mediocre player in the league. Jay Cutler level of mediocre.
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Damn just saw Mayfield’s stats for tonight. Ouch.
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Browns ol could be a problem for them

Bucs ol is for sure a problem
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Originally Posted by O.city:
Browns ol could be a problem for them

Bucs ol is for sure a problem

Their offensive line is going to cost them all year.
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He should out grow that stupid stuff. Can he keep it together long enough to not implode before he does.
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Originally Posted by staylor26:
DJ you’re talking to somebody that thinks Mayfield’s only problem is “arrogance” and chooses to ignore the red flags (back and forth with Cowherd, Duke Johnson comments, Daniel Jones comments, etc.)

He’s not going to agree with the LJ/Peters comparisons.

no, I don't see anything anywhere near LJ/Peters.

as for Cowherd, most of us agree with Baker, don't we?

We're accustomed to players that keep their mouths shut. Mayfield doesn't. Sometimes he should, as in the Jones talk.

It's not the same as LJ or Peters at all.

I see Mayfield as a cocky kid that feeds on the doubters. Hell, even Brady openly used that as fuel this past season. I expect in time, Mayfield will learn when that's helpful and when it's a distraction.

I just think a lot of the 'red flags' are just a bunch of hooey and he's a different kind of kid.

Most of the hate on this board for him is because OKLAHOMA, in my opinion.

You're certainly entitled to yours.
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