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Nzoner's Game Room>Most Teams ‘Not Interested’ in Chiefs’ Eric Bieniemy
Mephistopheles Janx 02:37 AM 12-30-2020
https://heavy.com/sports/kansas-city...5-o3CPAb3Zxeek

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On a previous episode of the PFN Weekly show, Allbright mentioned that Eric Bieniemy is “a titleholder who relays the play calls in but doesn’t make the play calls very often.”

“Andy Reid’s doing the play calling. Like 99 percent of the time Andy Reid is doing the play calling, he designed the offense, all of that stuff.”

Allbright has also mentioned that Bieniemy’s previous interviews have been poor. These poor interviews have likely caused him to fall out of consideration for certain positions in the past. Allbright mentioned that some teams with vacancies aren’t all that interested in Bieniemy. These historical poor interviews could be a big reason why.

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DaneMcCloud 01:08 PM 12-30-2020
Originally Posted by notorious:
I’m coming into this oblivious of his time in Boulder. What did he do?
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Multiple traffic issues, DUI, Recruiting violations, rape allegations (against players, not EB), money, etc.

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/1/6...joseph-broncos
Not to mention, a 3-10 season followed by a 1-11 season.

Their offenses were awful, too.
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bdj23 01:11 PM 12-30-2020
Article reeks of shit falling off a wall.
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KChiefs1 01:15 PM 12-30-2020
Sounds like someone doesn't want the Chiefs to get that 3rd round pick.
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DaneMcCloud 01:17 PM 12-30-2020
Some guys just don't interview well. They get nervous, lose their train of thought, sweat, etc. They can't speak well under pressure and allow their fear and anxiety to take over.

That said, I'd be surprised if that was Bieniemy's issue because the guy has played on some of the biggest stages in all of college football and the NFL. Panic and anxiety would be a death knell for an offensive coordinator, let alone, a head coach in the NFL or high collegiate level, so I doubt that's his issue.

If he didn't interview well, I would tend to think that it's because he wasn't prepared and didn't have an overall plan in place in which to lead whichever team he's interviewing for out their doldrums. But even that seems like a stretch because everyone has repeatedly stated that he's always prepared.

So either everyone is covering for him, pushing for him to get a HC gig or he's just not a good interviewer. I guess time will tell.
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DaneMcCloud 01:21 PM 12-30-2020
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Sounds like someone doesn't want the Chiefs to get that 3rd round pick.
50% of all NFL draft picks, regardless of the round taken, are out of the league within three years, while 50% of 1st rounders bust completely.

People over-value NFL draft picks every single day of every single year and I doubt that most fans can even name their favorite team's 3rd round pick from 3 years ago.

The NFL Draft is a Lottery and while it's nice to have a few extra tickets, it's absolutely no guarantee of success.

Having two 3rd round draft choices is apropos of nothing.
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tk13 01:29 PM 12-30-2020
I wouldn't be shocked if the CU stuff hurts him a little bit, that kind of goes unspoken.

The biggest issue is the NFL isn't afraid to take multiple shots on guys like Adam Gase, or anyone who's been in the same room as Belichick or Sean McVay, even though very few of them have had success. Why do some of these guys deserve second or third chances and EB doesn't? He's older now, hopefully wiser, and he's spent most of this decade learning under one of the best coaches at turning out future head coaches.

Scott Pioli's tenure here was a disaster of catastrophic proportions on the field and off the field, yet he can still get work. But it's true there are some guys like Al Saunders who could just never get a job because of his attitude.
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alanm 01:44 PM 12-30-2020
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
How do we know he doesn’t call the plays that everybody bitches about?
EB has imput but it has always been Andy calling the plays. And I hope he stays. I'd sure as hell wouldn't want the Jets or Lions job. Jacksonville would be a different story.
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tredadda 02:32 PM 12-30-2020
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
I speculated that maybe he was a poor interviewer and got trashed last season. And i still believe that he may be being hurt by Nagy and Pederson as much as whether or not he calls plays or not. The wheels are falling off ofr Pederson without elite talent, and Nagy had one flash in the pan season and can only seem to temporarily right the ship when he changes qbs for a week or two. Teams may see that and think the magic is mostly big Andy and be nervous about turning the keys to a franchise thats already in dismay over.
Doubt the performance of Pederson or Nagy has anything to do with it. Look at all the disciples of Belichick who get hired in spite of the track record of abject failure.
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kcclone 02:45 PM 12-30-2020
At the end of of the day there are very few “no-brainer” HC candidates. Job openings significantly exceed the number of sure-bet hires. We were super lucky to get one in Andy, but the vast majority of hires are lottery tickets like Bienemy.

With guys like Bienemy and most other hires, you won’t know if they can do it until they get the chance.
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Chris Meck 02:47 PM 12-30-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Multiple traffic issues, DUI, Recruiting violations, rape allegations (against players, not EB), money, etc.

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/1/6...joseph-broncos
yeah. I just see a bunch of not-that-big-a-deal there.

1)Damned near everyone who reads this post could've had multiple DUI's.

2)recruiting violations are pretty common at a lot of programs; and a lot of the 'violations' are weird arbitrary lines that don't make much functional sense.

3)rape allegations against players-man, at Div 1 schools, recruiting is the main if not only thing. If you took on only choirboys you'd never win. I don't think it's fair to hold Bienemy accountable for having some 18 or 19 year old kids' off-field behavior. Go talk to people in and around the more successful programs and this stuff happens all the time; with the more powerful programs it just gets swept under the rug. I'm not saying it should be; just that it is. Besides, it's the NFL. Rothlisberger still has a job. That argument just doesn't fly.
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Chris Meck 02:48 PM 12-30-2020
Originally Posted by kcclone:
At the end of of the day there are very few “no-brainer” HC candidates. Job openings significantly exceed the number of sure-bet hires. We were super fortunate to get one in Andy, but the vast majority of hires are guys lottery tickets like Bienemy.

With guys like Bienemy and most other hires, you won’t know if they can do it until they get the chance.
Most of this board was up in arms when Clark hired Andy. Huge mistake. Huge.
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tredadda 02:51 PM 12-30-2020
HCs are like draft picks. You hope they pan out but a good number do not. I would rather take a chance on EB who has yet to have HC gig than someone who has already been a HC before and failed.
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RealSNR 02:55 PM 12-30-2020
Bieniemy DID call our star QB a prick! That wasn't a nice thing to say! Maybe teams don't want mean people as head coaches
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J Diddy 03:37 PM 12-30-2020
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Bieniemy DID call our star QB a prick! That wasn't a nice thing to say! Maybe teams don't want mean people as head coaches
Did he really?

Pat seems like the most un-prickish fellow I've seen.
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Pants 03:42 PM 12-30-2020
Originally Posted by J Diddy:
Did he really?

Pat seems like the most un-prickish fellow I've seen.
He was talking about Mahomes' competitiveness. EB said Pat is a "competitive prick." The context of the entire statement was very complimentary.
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