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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's talk about the Ravens.
Direckshun 12:34 AM 12-03-2018
The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season.

They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown.

Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style.

But that might change. He may see the field.

Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim.

We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does.

The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past.

As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game.

The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT.

But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative.

As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks.

#1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game).
#1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game).

I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here.

The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount.

Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well.

The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage.

In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD.

They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games.

Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons
Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers

That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point.

How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do.

What is going on?
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mr. tegu 10:04 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
After watching this defense AND offense against the Raiders, it's obvious they just wanted to get the game over with.



They aren't losing at home to the Ravens.

Exactly. It was 33-16 when the third quarter ended. It is clear that at that point the team put it in cruise control. I can’t believe how many posts I’m seeing with people thinking the final score somehow means this game was ever in question or it now means we can lose to anyone anywhere.
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htismaqe 10:08 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
Exactly. It was 33-16 when the third quarter ended. It is clear that at that point the team put it in cruise control. I can’t believe how many posts I’m seeing with people thinking the final score somehow means this game was ever in question or it now means we can lose to anyone anywhere.
It's Chiefsplanet.
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Toad 10:10 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I honestly wouldn't try to pressure him. Play zone, keep contain, and make him beat you with his arm.

I'm really not worried about this game at all.
Yep...Keep QB Jackson from being their leading rusher.

On the flip side of the ball, our young phenom QB simply cannot be our leading rusher again (or ever). But, With a full week of full reps, Ware & Williams(s) should be fine.
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Sassy Squatch 10:14 AM 12-03-2018
Bullshit. BULLSHIT! FUCKING BULLSHIT!!! You know why people are pissed about how they played in the 2nd half? Because they pulled the same fucking bullshit against the Colts and Titans in the playoffs. What happened? They fucking LOST
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htismaqe 10:16 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Bullshit. BULLSHIT! FUCKING BULLSHIT!!! You know why people are pissed about how they played in the 2nd half? Because they pulled the same fucking bullshit against the Colts and Titans in the playoffs. What happened? They fucking LOST
Except they didn't lose!

The Chiefs scored TWENTY ONE points in the 2nd half of yesterday's game. It wasn't even REMOTELY like the Colts or Titans in the playoffs. Not even remotely the same.
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Best22 10:17 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
Exactly. It was 33-16 when the third quarter ended. It is clear that at that point the team put it in cruise control. I can’t believe how many posts I’m seeing with people thinking the final score somehow means this game was ever in question or it now means we can lose to anyone anywhere.
It was in question. And if our “cruise control” results in a 3 point game with 6 minutes left, then we should never have gotten into “cruise control” to begin with.

That game was VERY much in doubt. If Mahomes doesn’t convert that 3rd down we likely lose. If we only scored a FG on the last drive and went up 36-30, it’s a 50/50 chance we win at best.

Game was a nailbiter. Mahomes saved our bacon
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Sassy Squatch 10:20 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Except they didn't lose!

The Chiefs scored TWENTY ONE points in the 2nd half of yesterday's game. It wasn't even REMOTELY like the Colts or Titans in the playoffs. Not even remotely the same.
Bullshit. Only difference is this time we were playing a team built around securing the #1 overall pick instead of a team built for the playoffs.
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Reerun_KC 10:21 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It's Chiefsplanet.
N O it’s because chiefs.

Good thing we never lost in the playoffs lead big in the 4th qtr.
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htismaqe 10:22 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Bullshit. Only difference is this time we were playing a team built around securing the #1 overall pick instead of a team built for the playoffs.
:-)
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htismaqe 10:22 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC:
N O it’s because chiefs.

Good thing we never lost in the playoffs lead big in the 4th qtr.
Didn't score 21 second-half points in both of those games COMBINED. Couldn't even manage to get a 1st freaking down actually.
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Reerun_KC 10:24 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Didn't score 21 second-half points in both of those games COMBINED. Couldn't even manage to get a 1st freaking down actually.
So right now we’re listed day to day?
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Hog's Gone Fishin 10:31 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Atlanta's defense is trash and Jackson had 125 yards passing.
So he'll throw for 250 on us
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The Franchise 10:33 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Bullshit. Only difference is this time we were playing a team built around securing the #1 overall pick instead of a team built for the playoffs.
Yeah....the Raiders sure looked like they were trying to tank and lose.
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BryanBusby 10:33 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:
I have a feeling that’s what Sutton is going to do. Sell out to stop the run and dare Jackson to beat you with his arm.
They can't tackle. Good fucking luck.
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The Franchise 10:34 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
They can't tackle. Good fucking luck.
I didn't say it would work....did I?
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