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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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RunKC 06:54 PM 10-04-2018
Last time I looked at one of our early rd picks and thought “yeah this guy is gonna bust” was Jonathan Baldwin and it was because he got his ass kicked at his first training camp.

I see the same bust potential with Speaks.

He’s basically the same size as Allen Bailey and looks half as fast as him. The guy does not look athletic, he doesn’t look like he has any pass rush moves and he looks tired all the time.
He’s a good run stuffer sure, but that’s not what we drafted him for.

I sincerely hope I’m wrong, but I’m still wondering what Veach saw because he looks like a bust.
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staylor26 06:56 PM 10-04-2018
Speaks is half as fast as Allen Bailey?

:-)
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staylor26 06:59 PM 10-04-2018
Bailey was a tenth of a second faster coming out of college and after all the weight he’s put on and getting older I’d guarantee he’s not faster than him now.

Speaks looks slow for a LB, but saying he’s half as slow as Allen Bailey is about as retarded as saying Julio is overrated and comparable to Dwayne Bowe.

:-)
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RealSNR 07:03 PM 10-04-2018
Originally Posted by DaFace:
My reading between the lines suggests that Veach just didn't think we'd be competing for a Super Bowl this year and, therefore, went for prospects rather than win now guys. That sucks, but I can't say I thought we'd be this good this year either.

As for Speaks, the only reason people are pissy about him is that they're putting him on the field. Kpass undoubtedly would have been awful this time last year, but we just never saw him.

Veach certainly deserves more than one draft (in which he didn't have a first round pick) to show what he can do.


How about you trade up in the second round who ISNT a huge fat piece of shit when he gets on the field?

Enough of these “this guy needs time” draft picks! QB is one thing. Doubling down two years in a row at the same position (OLB) is another
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Sassy Squatch 07:03 PM 10-04-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Bailey was a tenth of a second faster coming out of college and after all the weight he’s put on and getting older I’d guarantee he’s not faster than him now.

Speaks looks slow for a LB, but saying he’s half as slow as Allen Bailey is about as retarded as saying Julio is overrated and comparable to Dwayne Bowe.

:-)
Speaks looks halfway decent rushing in a straight line. It's when he's got to turn the edge that he usually loses his balance and gets left on his ass, which renders him useless.
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O.city 07:09 PM 10-04-2018
Speaks wasn’t supposed to be a project though

He just looks shitty
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Sassy Squatch 07:11 PM 10-04-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Speaks wasn’t supposed to be a project though

He just looks shitty
Don't know how converting a DE into an OLB wouldn't be a project.
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RunKC 07:13 PM 10-04-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Sure would be nice to get something out of him now though, while Mahomes is having a generational season...
This is what pisses me off the most. I don’t know if it’s Veach, Andy or Sutton, but it’s embarrassing.

The draft segment in April showed Speaks having some experience doing things in this defense, but the article that came out last week stated he was learning a new position and essentially starting over.

Why the fuck are we drafting guys and transitioning them? Ford, Tanoh and now Speaks. Fucking draft a player that played 3-4 OLB in college. What is so hard about that?

You only get these guys for 4 years before you have to pay them and taking 1-2 years to simply learn a new position is a waste.

This is the kind of shit that will kill us when Mahomes gets paid. We can’t afford to waste cost controlled players.
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Rain Man 07:14 PM 10-04-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I think it’s pretty obvious that if Speaks turns out to be a success it will likely be at DE. Veach has already acknowledged that could be the case. They already knew the experiment at OLB might not work, which makes me feel a little better as does KPass’s growth.

If he’s moved to DE, we will see what he can really do.
Veach said something like that? That makes me feel better.
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SAUTO 07:14 PM 10-04-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Speaks wasn’t supposed to be a project though

He just looks shitty
And SLOW
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O.city 07:17 PM 10-04-2018
Yeah and real slow
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Sassy Squatch 07:19 PM 10-04-2018
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
And SLOW
Looks slow for an OLB. Looks about right for a DE.
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ThaVirus 07:19 PM 10-04-2018
He makes slow people look fast
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Titty Meat 07:23 PM 10-04-2018
Speaks will be Levand Kiekland when it's all said and done
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Strongside 07:27 PM 10-04-2018
I could see Berry as a guy that might want to make the comeback VS the Pats. Pick up where you left off.
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