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Easy 6 09:46 PM 05-12-2017
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I'd like to get those two really rolling together like Atlanta uses Freeman and Coleman. Just a couple of well balanced runners who run hard as hell and can catch the ball.

This team is going to need a top notch run game to make an AFC Championship under Alex Smith in 2017, along with a top notch defense. Now, if Mahomes becomes as good as many including myself think he could be, it's a whole new level for the Chiefs. The offense could become something it hasn't been in nearly 15 years.
I honestly dont see our guys being quite as dynamic as Atlantas duo

But what our guys lack in explosiveness, they should be be able to make up for with with a grinding, wear you down, kill the clock style... provided Ehingers return is the cure for what ailed us last year

What Alex Smith brings this year, I have no clue... tempted to expect the same old shit because thats how he has mostly played for his entire career

But maybe, just maybe, the writing on the wall spurs him to reach outside of himself and he tries to MAKE plays for once... 'good' Smiff can approach dynamic, we'll see

The pressure will either make him wilt, or make him show off

If he decides to grab his balls, we could have a great year
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Baby Lee 12:52 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
The defense did what it did all year in that game. Bend don't break. They were dealing with injuries all throughout the front 7. Houston wasn't half of himself, and obviously DJ, Bailey, and Howard were out. Hali wasn't right either I'd guess looking at his snap count. Roethlisberger had been poor on the road for the past 2-3 seasons, and the stats show that. I didn't expect Ben to have a great game.

The offense was also what it had been the entire year. There were no injuries outside of Ehinger, which likely held the running game back a little bit. We were at home, coming off of a bye, facing a defense that was not what anyone would consider to be good. Andy's first 15 play script was a success (much like the Tennessee game), but when it came time to make adjustments, the offense curled into a ball. Just as it did vs. TEN, TB, HOU. Even some of our wins were highlighted a below average offense.

Sure, some of that blame could go around to all. But there is no question where the majority of it goes. I've got NFL Game Pass, and I watch the tape of the games on All-22. Smith left a ton of plays on the field. Specifically in the playoff game, as many have posted on here. Despite what you read on here, Maclin is still a really good WR. He got open a lot last year toward the end of the season. Smith just wasn't throwing him the ball. The same can be said for other receivers as well on certain plays.
All well and good, just interested in the thought process that watched the game and said 'well, now we have exactly one big identifiable and unchangeable problem to fix.'

I saw a shit ton of work to be done, and a huge blowout narrowly averted by a HAAARIBLE performance by the opposing QB.
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Baby Lee 12:54 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
Cue the classic Baby Lee outrage post!
Reerun is ginning up his tired 'destroy Alex's body and brain, put him in hospice care so I don't have to watch him on muhteevee' schtick.

That's a different level of shitbird worthlessness than even you.
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Reerun_KC 12:55 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
We get it, you're a classless piece of shit and a worthless sports fan.

The Chiefs ought to give you season tickets, except you have to attend every event 'siamese twin' style with that asshole who called Adam Jones the N-word in Boston last week.
Ermahgerd. Slurpees!!

Shut up with your bullshit homeristic ball washing.
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Reerun_KC 12:56 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Reerun is ginning up his tired 'destroy Alex's body and brain, put him in hospice care so I don't have to watch him on muhteevee' schtick.

That's a different level of shitbird worthlessness than even you.
Boo hoo

No different than you blowing him every other post.
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Reerun_KC 12:57 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks:
You are morons, because you are blaming Smith for his overstay.. instead of blaming Andy and Dorsey.. who make that ultimate decision.
My distain of andy got me banned from A many of threads thanks to Bob dole the ball washer.
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Baby Lee 12:58 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC:
My distain of andy got me banned from Amy of threads thanks to Bob dole the ball washer.
Glug, glug, glug. . . .
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Reerun_KC 01:00 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Glug, glug, glug. . . .
Alright then. Swallow you some.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 01:05 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks:
You are morons, because you are blaming Smith for his overstay.. instead of blaming Andy and Dorsey.. who make that ultimate decision.
Welp, I'm VERY happy with their latest decision regarding the QB position of the KC Chiefs, so there's that.
And when I found out that they had made that decision almost a year ago, I knew then and there that my team was FINALLY in the hands of people who had a clue.
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC:
My distain of andy got me banned from A many of threads thanks to Bob dole the ball washer.
You fought bravely my friend. Kick back and enjoy the victory of a Dole-free Planet, just as God intended.
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RealSNR 02:16 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
I'm asking this in all seriousness, and hoping for well reasoned responses only.



I'm seriously at a loss how the Pittsburgh loss was the straw the broke the camel's back for ALEX ONLY.



I can see if it broke someone's spirit for the whole team. It nearly did for me. It certainly made me question karma and frankly the drive of the entire organization. But I've come to convince myself that the entire team was out of sorts, and there is [probably] some hidden drama or injury behind the scenes that they were trying to cover for.



I get that many see this as an 18 pt defensive truimph that Alex alone effed up. But I seriously see it as a potential 50/55-10 blowout that was only 'effed up' by Rapelis having his worst day of his career, and a few sparks of life from the offense towards the end.

Are you looking for irrefutable proof that Alex isn't good enough? You're not going to get it. He's not going to ever go full Tyler Palko in a game.

That doesn't mean his performance was acceptable or good enough. And if you want to argue that it is, what percentage of total Alex games would you guess gave a clear indication that he had a GREAT game? Now what percentage of games do you come back to CP to recap and people can't quite seem to decide if Alex was good or bad?

When you're so often riding that gray area as a QB, the situation becomes like the boy who cried wolf. He puts up Pittsburgh games FUCKING CONSTANTLY. Chiefs lost? "Well if receiver X would do his job and catch the ball..." Chiefs win? "Ever think that Alex chose to play to the team strengths and allow our ST and D to keep doing what they were doing?" And in those wins, how many of them ever include more than 1 or 2 memorable and important plays that Alex made?

Maybe it's juuuust possible that game managers just don't win those Pittsburgh games. Maybe it's possible the QB can not look like an ass on the field and still just not be good enough.

If we're so dependent on the injury depleted defense to make all the clutch end of game plays (which Alex makes them do all the time in the regular season) then maybe we should be looking to replace the game manager QB who makes the team so dependent on that side of the ball to win games
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Sweet Daddy Hate 02:32 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Are you looking for irrefutable proof that Alex isn't good enough? You're not going to get it. He's not going to ever go full Tyler Palko in a game.

That doesn't mean his performance was acceptable or good enough. And if you want to argue that it is, what percentage of total Alex games would you guess gave a clear indication that he had a GREAT game? Now what percentage of games do you come back to CP to recap and people can't quite seem to decide if Alex was good or bad?

When you're so often riding that gray area as a QB, the situation becomes like the boy who cried wolf. He puts up Pittsburgh games FUCKING CONSTANTLY. Chiefs lost? "Well if receiver X would do his job and catch the ball..." Chiefs win? "Ever think that Alex chose to play to the team strengths and allow our ST and D to keep doing what they were doing?" And in those wins, how many of them ever include more than 1 or 2 memorable and important plays that Alex made?

Maybe it's juuuust possible that game managers just don't win those Pittsburgh games. Maybe it's possible the QB can not look like an ass on the field and still just not be good enough.

If we're so dependent on the injury depleted defense to make all the clutch end of game plays (which Alex makes them do all the time in the regular season) then maybe we should be looking to replace the game manager QB who makes the team so dependent on that side of the ball to win games
Perfect.
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Hammock Parties 02:35 PM 05-14-2017
Why are we still talking about this cuck?



Stop wasting keystrokes and bandwidth on him.
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New World Order 02:36 PM 05-14-2017
1 more year and he's done.
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SAUTO 03:11 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Are you looking for irrefutable proof that Alex isn't good enough? You're not going to get it. He's not going to ever go full Tyler Palko in a game.

That doesn't mean his performance was acceptable or good enough. And if you want to argue that it is, what percentage of total Alex games would you guess gave a clear indication that he had a GREAT game? Now what percentage of games do you come back to CP to recap and people can't quite seem to decide if Alex was good or bad?

When you're so often riding that gray area as a QB, the situation becomes like the boy who cried wolf. He puts up Pittsburgh games FUCKING CONSTANTLY. Chiefs lost? "Well if receiver X would do his job and catch the ball..." Chiefs win? "Ever think that Alex chose to play to the team strengths and allow our ST and D to keep doing what they were doing?" And in those wins, how many of them ever include more than 1 or 2 memorable and important plays that Alex made?

Maybe it's juuuust possible that game managers just don't win those Pittsburgh games. Maybe it's possible the QB can not look like an ass on the field and still just not be good enough.

If we're so dependent on the injury depleted defense to make all the clutch end of game plays (which Alex makes them do all the time in the regular season) then maybe we should be looking to replace the game manager QB who makes the team so dependent on that side of the ball to win games
Good post
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Baby Lee 03:16 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Are you looking for irrefutable proof that Alex isn't good enough? You're not going to get it. He's not going to ever go full Tyler Palko in a game.

That doesn't mean his performance was acceptable or good enough. And if you want to argue that it is, what percentage of total Alex games would you guess gave a clear indication that he had a GREAT game? Now what percentage of games do you come back to CP to recap and people can't quite seem to decide if Alex was good or bad?

When you're so often riding that gray area as a QB, the situation becomes like the boy who cried wolf. He puts up Pittsburgh games FUCKING CONSTANTLY. Chiefs lost? "Well if receiver X would do his job and catch the ball..." Chiefs win? "Ever think that Alex chose to play to the team strengths and allow our ST and D to keep doing what they were doing?" And in those wins, how many of them ever include more than 1 or 2 memorable and important plays that Alex made?

Maybe it's juuuust possible that game managers just don't win those Pittsburgh games. Maybe it's possible the QB can not look like an ass on the field and still just not be good enough.

If we're so dependent on the injury depleted defense to make all the clutch end of game plays (which Alex makes them do all the time in the regular season) then maybe we should be looking to replace the game manager QB who makes the team so dependent on that side of the ball to win games
I get that you're scrutinizing Alex. My question is why is he the sole subject of criticism? Is everything else 'fine?' Is everything else 'going to improve' but him? Is QB play at this point the only thing anyone gives a shit about anymore? [again, I point out the pro bowl QB skills challenge, for those so inclined]
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beach tribe 03:24 PM 05-14-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Then they must be prepared for a 6-10 or 7-9 season, which I think is highly unlikely.
There is no reason why they have to be ready for a 6-10 or 7-9 season in 2018 if they want MaHomes to start.

There is no reason why he won't be ready to play after a year on the bench .
Reid has to adjust the playbook for Smith because of his limitations, and if Mahomes has any limitations, he will do the same for him.

And finally there is no reason for the Chiefs to pay Smith 20 million dollars in 2018.....and they won't..

Anyone who thinks Smith will be here in 2018, barring the best season of his career, by far, needs to wake up.

They didn't trade up 17 spots in the 1st rnd for their hand picked guy to sit half of his rookie deal..

This is Smith's last season playing for the Chiefs, unless he takes a pay cut, which he very well might do, as he has stated that he is willing to discuss how he can help the team financially.
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