Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
I'm just a sucker for the "what was happening to these people during X event" kind of stories. Always entertaining when well done.
If so, then you need to watch all 7 seasons of The Clone Wars and all four seasons of Star Wars Rebels.
Not only does the Clone Wars series completely kick ass, we see Anakin and Obi Wan's brotherly type of relationship up close and personal, as well as a deep dive into the Clone Wars, the clones themselves and the return of Darth Maul, while learning a bit more about The Force itself.
We also get to know Anakin's Padawan, Ahsoka Tano, and her role in the entire saga. I can't imagine watching Episode 5 of The Mandalorian Season 2 and not understanding why Ahsoka's presence was so incredible and such an integral part of the overall Star Wars story. Her upcoming series will be very important to the overall story and she's a fan favorite (and personally one of my All Time favorite SW characters).
Star Wars Rebels is also integral to the overall story, as characters from The Clone Wars series make appearances, followed by appearances in Rogue One. The first season is a little more "kid friendly" than the subsequent three seasons but it definitely gets much darker in Season 2, which carries forward into the fourth season and its two-part finale (which is also integral to The Mandalorian).
Both animated series are Canon and IMO, required viewing, especially with "Andor", the Rogue One Prequel series set to release in 2022 along with the Ahsoka series. It won't be the least bit surprising when the Obi Wan series ties back into all of these other properties as well because finally, Star Wars is an interconnected universe and to understand what's fully going on, you'll need to see both animated series (and from the looks of it and they way they're tying in Omega to the cloners in The Mandalorian, The Bad Batch is going to be integral, too). [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
If so, then you need to watch all 7 seasons of The Clone Wars and all four seasons of Star Wars Rebels.
Not only does the Clone Wars series completely kick ass, we see Anakin and Obi Wan's brotherly type of relationship up close and personal, as well as a deep dive into the Clone Wars, the clones themselves and the return of Darth Maul, while learning a bit more about The Force itself.
We also get to know Anakin's Padawan, Ahsoka Tano, and her role in the entire saga. I can't imagine watching Episode 5 of The Mandalorian Season 2 and not understanding why Ahsoka's presence was so incredible and such an integral part of the overall Star Wars story. Her upcoming series will be very important to the overall story and she's a fan favorite (and personally one of my All Time favorite SW characters).
Star Wars Rebels is also integral to the overall story, as characters from The Clone Wars series make appearances, followed by appearances in Rogue One. The first season is a little more "kid friendly" than the subsequent three seasons but it definitely gets much darker in Season 2, which carries forward into the fourth season and its two-part finale (which is also integral to The Mandalorian).
Both animated series are Canon and IMO, required viewing, especially with "Andor", the Rogue One Prequel series set to release in 2022 along with the Ahsoka series. It won't be the least bit surprising when the Obi Wan series ties back into all of these other properties as well because finally, Star Wars is an interconnected universe and to understand what's fully going on, you'll need to see both animated series (and from the looks of it and they way they're tying in Omega to the cloners in The Mandalorian, The Bad Batch is going to be integral, too).
Hell yeah dude. My 3 year old boy is loving Bad Batch, so I anm down for more of this content. Appreciate the summary. Between watching Adventure Time with my daughter and now this, it's not so bad being subjected to watching these shows with my kids. [Reply]
Could have been something. Fucking cancel culture.
Dude, her firing had absolutely nothing to do with "Cancel Culture" or Twitter or anything related to Social Media.
Her firing was akin to Mel Gibson's disappearance in Hollywood after making Anti-Semitic remarks caught on tape.
Studio heads and talent agents tolerate all kinds of nonsense, from drugs to alcohol to property destruction and sexual harassments to people just being miserable assholes.
But the one thing you cannot do in Hollywood is equate anything to the Holocaust or the suffering of Jewish people. Bob Iger is Jewish, as is Jeremy Zimmer. They're not going to tolerate that for one second, which is why she was ultimately fired.
I can understand why people outside of Hollywood can't wrap their heads around that concept but everyone in town with half a brain knows better than to insult the Jewish community in any way, shape or form without serious repercussions to their career. It's the highest form of disrespect in this business and flat out dumb to even broach that line.
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That said, I'm kind of happy this is no longer in development. The Mandalorian is at a crossroads in its storytelling and no one knows what The Book of Boba Fett holds. We just saw Luke in The Mando, the Rogue One Prequel and Obi Wan will launch in 2022 with new movies by Kevin Feige, Taika Waititti and Patty Jenkins, not to mention more series in development (Ahsoka, The High Republic and so on).
I don't want Star Wars just for the sake of Star Wars. It's already a bit too watered down as is, IMO. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Dude, her firing had absolutely nothing to do with "Cancel Culture" or Twitter or anything related to Social Media.
Her firing was akin to Mel Gibson's disappearance in Hollywood after making Anti-Semitic remarks caught on tape.
Studio heads and talent agents tolerate all kinds of nonsense, from drugs to alcohol to property destruction and sexual harassments to people just being miserable assholes.
But the one thing you cannot do in Hollywood is equate anything to the Holocaust or the suffering of Jewish people. Bob Iger is Jewish, as is Jeremy Zimmer. They're not going to tolerate that for one second, which is why she was ultimately fired.
I can understand why people outside of Hollywood can't wrap their heads around that concept but everyone in town with half a brain knows better than to insult the Jewish community in any way, shape or form without serious repercussions to their career. It's the highest form of disrespect in this business and flat out dumb to even broach that line.
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That said, I'm kind of happy this is no longer in development. The Mandalorian is at a crossroads in its storytelling and no one knows what The Book of Boba Fett holds. We just saw Luke in The Mando, the Rogue One Prequel and Obi Wan will launch in 2022 with new movies by Kevin Feige, Taika Waititti and Patty Jenkins, not to mention more series in development (Ahsoka, The High Republic and so on).
I don't want Star Wars just for the sake of Star Wars. It's already a bit too watered down as is, IMO.
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
I think I read a day or two ago that Filoni is now head creative director for Lucasfilm
Originally Posted by Bowser:
As he should be, really
He was promoted early last summer to Executive Creative Director but for some reason, the "news" just got out to the public in the past couple of days. [Reply]
My concern with all of these new Star Wars TV series is that they're trying too hard to compete with Marvel in terms of volume and I'm just not sure there are many stories left to tell.
I watched the sequel trilogy this week while on the treadmill and while I don't absolutely love it, it makes more sense now with The Mandalorian, Bad Batch and the Marvel Darth Vader comics. The story behind Palpatine's clones is shaping up on The Bad Batch and The Mando while the comics have already shown Palpatine's contingency plan, with the Sith beginning to create the Final Order Fleet just shortly after he declared himself Emperor.
It just feels to me that if they're going to move forward with Star Wars, the next movies and TV series should be set in a completely different era, whether that's the past or the future. To me, it's just getting to the point where I don't need absolutely everything filled in and explained anymore. We know how the Empire began and ended, we know how the First Order began and ended, and we the know the fate of Han, Luke, Leia, Yoda, Obi-Wan, Anakin, Padme and Palpatine.
How much more do we need to know? What interesting stories are left to tell at this point? It just feels to me as if it's time to move on to another era. [Reply]
Originally Posted by eDave: J.J. Abrams acknowledges it probably would have been better if they had approached the Star Wars sequel trilogy with a plan.
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Abrams – co-writing the script with Lawrence Kasdan after Michael Arndt wrote the initial drafts – pulled it off, not only providing a satisfying conclusion to Han Solo’s arc, but also making the world fall in love with Rey, Finn, Poe, BB-8, etc.
And in all honesty, it was Kathleen Kennedy's vision and insistence that ruined the Disney trilogy. It was a monetary win and Disney made money on it, sure, but there's just no getting around what KK was doing with the Star Wars universe. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bowser:
And in all honesty, it was Kathleen Kennedy's vision and insistence that ruined the Disney trilogy. It was a monetary win and Disney made money on it, sure, but there's just no getting around what KK was doing with the Star Wars universe.
The biggest mistake was not creating a solid backstory for the 30 years prior to the sequel trilogy. We're starting to see some of that now with The Mandalorian and the upcoming Book of Boba Fett and probably Ahsoka. The Bad Batch and The Mandalorian are also, slowly but surely, revealing The Emperor's cloning plans (and in the new Darth Vader Marvel comic, we're seeing the beginnings of the creation of the Sith Fleet seen in RoS). But it's just too late to undo the the events of the sequel trilogy and we all know how it ends.
Had the decision been made to begin telling stories 5 years after Endor, the story would have grown organically and may have led the writers to a different place altogether. And while the Emperor may have returned and Luke may have questioned his role or duty in training future Jedi, we would have seen that in real time, not in a fast forward.
Now, there's just no way to undo the sequel trilogy, although I think JJ did about as well as humanly possible, given the events of The Last Jedi. Luke admitted his mistake, helped Rey defeat Palpatine while Ben Solo reconciled with Han Solo and Rey ultimately became a Skywalker.
It seems to me that they're at least building up the backstory of how The Emperor survived the destruction of the Death Star 2 and we're seeing the cloning operation first hand in The Bad Batch and in The Mandalorian but it's much harder to make a story "fit" within certain parameters than it is to allow the story to guide the writers to a more logical place.
The bottom line is that absolutely everything should have been planned out and in place for at least 30 years in the future, if not 50, before producing a movie set 30 years in the future without a backstory. It's freaking Screenwriting 101! [Reply]
Originally Posted by eDave: J.J. Abrams acknowledges it probably would have been better if they had approached the Star Wars sequel trilogy with a plan.
