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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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GloryDayz 08:20 AM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by Brooklyn:
The veiled cism in this thread is laughable.


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Veiled?
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patteeu 08:45 AM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by Brooklyn:
The veiled cism in this thread is laughable.


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What's cism?
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oldman 09:02 AM 10-22-2018
I think both Berry and Houston would rather be on the field than on the sidelines. But what irritates me most is we've kept Berry on the roster when he clearly wasn't ready to go during camp. While you can say that he's not taking up space being non-active, the truth is his roster spot could have been used for someone that could have developed.
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htismaqe 09:04 AM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by patteeu:
What's cism?
Cynicism, skepticism, Berryschism.
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allen_kcCard 09:05 AM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by oldman:
I think both Berry and Houston would rather be on the field than on the sidelines. But what irritates me most is we've kept Berry on the roster when he clearly wasn't ready to go during camp. While you can say that he's not taking up space being non-active, the truth is his roster spot could have been used for someone that could have developed.
If we get two returners from IR both play and Berry play at some point, then they made the right move by just keeping him off of it. If those three things don't happen then they made the wrong call.

If we end up getting LDT, Sorensen, and Berry all doing well at the end of the season, then this irritation is all well worth it.
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chuxtrux 09:13 AM 10-22-2018
Rest him until the Thursday night game against the Chargers in December Gives him enough time to shake off the rust for the playoffs. His only job this season is to shut down Gronk in the AFC Championship Game.
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DJ's left nut 09:14 AM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Veiled?
And we've hit the holy trinity of bullshit.

It started with the nonsensical 'jealousy' gripe, slowly evolved into the tired 'hatin' keyboard warriors' trope and now we've thrown racism on the pile.

1,000 damn posts in this thread, many of which offer detailed explanations as to why folks are frustrated with Eric Berry and we still have idiots looking for some fly-by quick hitters.

There are literally dozens of threads in the last week singing the praises of rich, athletic black men on this board and the dude that takes more shit than ANYONE is the dumpy, doofy old white guy wearing a headseat and directing the defense. But you're right - gotta be just a bunch of jealous, racist haters...

Fucking chodes.
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ModSocks 09:14 AM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by beach tribe:
I dont doubt Berry one bit.

Im betting he returns and is the best player on this defense when he does.

Am I the only one that feels this way?
I'm with ya, man.
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OKchiefs 09:15 AM 10-22-2018
So we rest him enough to get a few games out of him, then go through the exact same debacle next year? Not a bad gig getting paid what he does to play a few games a year.
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htismaqe 09:19 AM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
And we've hit the holy trinity of bullshit.

It started with the nonsensical 'jealousy' gripe, slowly evolved into the tired 'hatin' keyboard warriors' trope and now we've thrown racism on the pile.

1,000 damn posts in this thread, many of which offer detailed explanations as to why folks are frustrated with Eric Berry and we still have idiots looking for some fly-by quick hitters.

There are literally dozens of threads in the last week singing the praises of rich, athletic black men on this board and the dude that takes more shit than ANYONE is the dumpy, doofy old white guy wearing a headseat and directing the defense. But you're right - gotta be just a bunch of jealous, racist haters...

Fucking chodes.
Dammit dude. I purposefully avoided that word. :-)
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OKchiefs 09:23 AM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
And we've hit the holy trinity of bullshit.

It started with the nonsensical 'jealousy' gripe, slowly evolved into the tired 'hatin' keyboard warriors' trope and now we've thrown racism on the pile.

1,000 damn posts in this thread, many of which offer detailed explanations as to why folks are frustrated with Eric Berry and we still have idiots looking for some fly-by quick hitters.

There are literally dozens of threads in the last week singing the praises of rich, athletic black men on this board and the dude that takes more shit than ANYONE is the dumpy, doofy old white guy wearing a headseat and directing the defense. But you're right - gotta be just a bunch of jealous, racist haters...

Fucking chodes.
+1
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L.A. Chieffan 09:24 AM 10-22-2018
Let him rest till right before playoffs
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htismaqe 09:26 AM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan:
Let him rest till right before playoffs
That makes no sense. He's not just going to come into the game and hit the ground running. He needs time to work back into it.
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L.A. Chieffan 09:30 AM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
That makes no sense. He's not just going to come into the game and hit the ground running. He needs time to work back into it.
He's Eric Berry bro. He could show up waking up from a coma and be better than half the league. Give him like week 16 and 17 and he'll be good
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oldman 09:34 AM 10-22-2018
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
So we rest him enough to get a few games out of him, then go through the exact same debacle next year?
If we know we can get more than a few plays/games out of him, I'd be all in. Sadly, I just think he's a walking time bomb. If he doesn't play this year, it'll be almost 2 years come TC next year. At what point do you give up?
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