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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Trump in ‘fragile’ mood and may drop out of 2020 race if poll numbers don’t improve
oaklandhater 02:35 PM 06-29-2020
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rce=reddit.com

Trump in ‘fragile’ mood and may drop out of 2020 race if poll numbers don’t improve, GOP insiders tell Fox News

Donald Trump may drop out of the 2020 presidential race if he believes he has no chance of winning, a Republican Party operative reportedly told Fox News.

The claim comes in a report in the president’s favourite news outlet that cites a number of GOP insiders who are concerned about Mr Trump’s re-election prospects amid abysmal polling numbers.

Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, currently holds an average lead of nine points over the incumbent, according to a tracker of 2020 polls by RealClearPolitics.

Crucially, Mr Trump has lost support from older white voters — typically a bedrock of support for the Republican Party and a group that was crucial to his narrow 2016 victory. Mr Trump is also trailing the former vice president in almost all the swing states.

“It’s too early, but if the polls continue to worsen, you can see a scenario where he drops out,” one anonymous GOP operative told Fox News.

Charles Gasparino, the author of the Fox News report, said in a series of tweets that he had spoken to “major players” in the Republican party for the story. One of them described Mr Trump’s mood as “fragile” as his chances of a second-term looked increasingly dim.

Another of the GOP sources cited in the report said of the likelihood that Mr Trump will drop out: “I’ve heard the talk but I doubt it’s true. My bet is, he drops if he believes there’s no way to win.”

Mr Trump has repeatedly hit out at polling that shows him far behind Mr Biden. Last month, he tweeted that Fox News “should fire their Fake Pollster. Never had a good Fox Poll!”

On Monday, he tweeted: "Sorry to inform the Do Nothing Democrats, but I am getting VERY GOOD internal Polling Numbers. Just like 2016, the @nytimes Polls are Fake! The @FoxNews Polls are a JOKE! Do you think they will apologize to me & their subscribers AGAIN when I WIN? People want LAW, ORDER & SAFETY!"

But polls from all polling organisations show Mr Trump consistently behind by similar margins. In particular, they have shown high levels of disapproval over the president’s handling of the coronavirus and mass protests calling for racial justice after the police killing of George Floyd.



A recent Washington Post-Ipsos poll found that 36 per cent of American adults approve of Trump’s handling of the protests, while 62 percent disapprove. A New York Times poll returned similar numbers.

The same New York Times-Siena College poll found 58 per cent of Americans disapprove of his handling of the coronavirus outbreak, while only 38 percent approve — the worst ratings since the crisis began.

The Trump campaign called reports that the president would consider dropping out “the granddaddy of fake news”.

“Everyone knows that media polling has always been wrong about President Trump –* they undersample Republicans and don’t screen for likely voters –* in order to set false narratives,” Trump campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh told Fox News.

“It won’t work. There was similar fretting in 2016 and if it had been accurate, Hillary Clinton would be in the White House right now.
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Bwana 05:41 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
We've really reached new territory when Trumpers have given up on trying to pretend the news isn't all bad for him and spam threads with unrelated topics to distract from it.

Not at all, but Oaktards threads are always ridiculous, so we might as well get something good out of them.
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mlyonsd 05:42 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by Bwana:
I might have to get after some of that late this week, it's been awhile and always tasty. We are having a cold front with tons of rain, so I figured it would be a good day to have the oven rolling, rather doing the prime when it's 95.
My local forecast here showed you at 61 degrees. Our 10 day forecast has 1 in the 80's, the rest 90's with severe humidity. I hate you.
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Pogue 05:49 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
We've really reached new territory when Trumpers have given up on trying to pretend the news isn't all bad for him and spam threads with unrelated topics to distract from it.

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Bwana 05:51 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
My local forecast here showed you at 61 degrees. Our 10 day forecast has 1 in the 80's, the rest 90's with severe humidity. I hate you.

Likewise, 61 for a high today. When I was wheeling Friday, it was 96.
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theoldcoach 05:53 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by Merde Furieux:
Believe it or not......that was the first meal that I had my Mother make for me when I got back from Viet Nam.

Many nights I sat in that Godforsaken jungle and dreamed of Momma's meat loaf and mashed potatoes and gravy.

And I can honestly say that it is one of the things that got me through. Thinking about someday going home to that meal! And by God...........I made it!!

That version right there looks delicious to this old jarhead.
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Hammock Parties 05:58 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by Pogue:
Missing two things imo, bacon and tomato soup.

"too much sodium"

"meat is murder"

"is that gluten free"

"i'm lactose intolerant"

- libs
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Eleazar 06:07 PM 06-29-2020
I was able to find some info on what would happen if Trump were to drop out. from 538:

(the context of this is, because of COVID, what would happen if a candidate were to die between now and the election)


If something were to happen to the presumptive nominee before the convention, the parties have a plan — they’d proceed as normal and use the convention to pick the nominee. And if something happened after the convention but before the election, there’s a plan for that, too — national party committees would step in. After the election, though, things get murkier, as it’s uncertain how the result would work out in the Electoral College.

Let’s tackle that first scenario — something happens to either Biden or Trump before their respective conventions. In the case of the Democratric nomination, that would all of a sudden open up the race, according to Lara Brown, director of the Graduate School of Political Management at George Washington University. The delayed primaries would become far more relevant, and this could create a free-for-all with Sen. Bernie Sanders and the other candidates.

“Let’s face it, none of the candidates have officially withdrawn,” said Brown. “They’ve all just suspended [their campaigns].”

But if tragedy didn’t strike until the convention, Biden delegates would have to choose someone else to support. Richard Pildes, a constitutional law professor at the New York University School of Law, stressed, however, that even under normal circumstances, the Democratic delegates are technically free “on the first ballot to vote their conscience.” As for the GOP convention rules, Pildes told me they specifically bind the delegates, and as Trump is the only candidate who will really have delegates, the party might need to issue an “interpretation” of the rules or even vote to change them to deal with this unforeseen situation.

Brown and Pildes said it wouldn’t necessarily prevent a drawn-out convention battle, but if Biden had picked a running mate, that might go a long way in limiting the intraparty fighting because Democrats would already have someone to rally around rather than being split among a host of alternatives. On the other hand, Vice President Pence would automatically ascend to the presidency should something happen to Trump, giving the Republicans a pretty straightforward pick if disaster struck before their August convention.

If something happened after the conventions but before the election, the national party committees would pick another nominee. Under Republican rules, the Republican National Committee could reconvene the national convention, although Pildes told me it’s hard to imagine that being feasible. So in both parties, national committee members would vote to elect a new nominee. Pence would once again be the obvious choice for Republicans, although the GOP would also have to pick a new vice presidential nominee (as would the Democrats if this situation arose for them). And while Democrats could try to back a former candidate or an outsider who didn’t run — say, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo — Brown said a crisis like this would likely push the Democratic National Committee to put the vice presidential nominee at the top of the ticket. “I assume that the Democrats would attempt to follow that same pattern [as the GOP],” she said.

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And what if something happens very close to Election Day? It’d probably be really hard to pick a replacement in time to update ballots, as most deadlines to certify state ballots would have passed by early October — not to mention other logistical hurdles that could pose problems, such as mailing ballots for overseas military service members in time, or making last-minute adjustments to absentee ballots. It’s entirely possible that if the candidate died only a few days before Nov. 3, voters might not know who the party’s nominee was when they go to the polls.


A bit from the NY Post:


No candidate of a major party has ever dropped out of a race between his or her party's convention and the general election, but there are rules that indicate what would happen in this unlikely scenario.

According to guidelines on the Republican Party's website, the process for re-nominating a candidate could only happen in the event of the nominee's "death" or "declination." In other words, the party can only act if the nominee leaves.

If the nominee drops out, the 168 members of the RNC may reconvene and would have the power of all their respective states' votes "totaling the number of delegates that they were entitled to at the convention," former RNC spokesman and political commentator Douglas Heye told The News. In other words, in lieu of reconvening all 2,472 delegates for another GOP spectacle, the committee members would vote by proxy.

"The National Committee members representing any state shall be entitled to cast the same number of votes as said state was entitled to cast at the national convention," rule No. 9 of the Rules of the Republican Party reads.

Committee members could presumably side with the candidate the states voted for in the primary elections, giving Republican primary candidates another shot at the ticket. But they are free to vote for whomever they want, even if that person didn't run in the primaries.

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mlyonsd 06:09 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by Bwana:
Likewise, 61 for a high today. When I was wheeling Friday, it was 96.
Ok, I only hate you today.
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Just Passin' By 06:17 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by theoldcoach:
Believe it or not......that was the first meal that I had my Mother make for me when I got back from Viet Nam.

Many nights I sat in that Godforsaken jungle and dreamed of Momma's meat loaf and mashed potatoes and gravy.

And I can honestly say that it is one of the things that got me through. Thinking about someday going home to that meal! And by God...........I made it!!

That version right there looks delicious to this old jarhead.

When it comes to meatloaf, the never ending battle in my (extended) family is over ketchup v. tomato sauce on the top.
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Merde Furieux 06:20 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by theoldcoach:
Believe it or not......that was the first meal that I had my Mother make for me when I got back from Viet Nam.

Many nights I sat in that Godforsaken jungle and dreamed of Momma's meat loaf and mashed potatoes and gravy.

And I can honestly say that it is one of the things that got me through. Thinking about someday going home to that meal! And by God...........I made it!!

That version right there looks delicious to this old jarhead.
Beautiful, man. I think my first meal home from Afghanistan was a Pizza
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theoldcoach 06:23 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
When it comes to meatloaf, the never ending battle in my (extended) family is over ketchup v. tomato sauce on the top.
Yep.

Mom used ketchup on top, but she put quite a bit of tomato sauce and juice in the meatloaf mix.

Oh my.......what I wouldn’t give to be able to sit down at her table just one more time. She’s been gone now for over 30 years.
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mlyonsd 06:23 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
When it comes to meatloaf, the never ending battle in my (extended) family is over ketchup v. tomato sauce on the top.
I've always done ketchup but the sauce thing is intriguing.
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theoldcoach 06:26 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by Merde Furieux:
Beautiful, man. I think my first meal home from Afghanistan was a Pizza
Thank God that we got home from those hell holes.
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Imon Yourside 06:29 PM 06-29-2020

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Naptown Chief 06:41 PM 06-29-2020
I made baked pork chops and sweet potatoe fries for dinner. Salt and pepper for the chops. Salt, pepper, garlic and crushed red pepper for the fries.

Fuck me in the goat ass, it was good.
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