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Fish 12:38 AM 06-20-2020

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rabblerouser 02:19 PM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Why are Tool fans so ****ing annoying?
Because Tool is so fucking annoying.
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rabblerouser 02:20 PM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by lcarus:
I will say one thing for the guy. He must have the stamina of a warrior to play those consistently repetitive 24 minute long songs.
True, but it's always the same song...
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rabblerouser 02:21 PM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by JD10367:
Oh, geez, we've got a Ringo white knight. :-)
I'd rather listen to every song Ringo drummed on over any song Danny Carey played on...
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Third Eye 03:50 PM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Because Tool is so fucking annoying.
Hey man, they canít all be Mickey Avalon.
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MTG#10 04:05 PM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by Third Eye:
Hey man, they canít all be Mickey Avalon.
:-)
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hometeam 07:56 PM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
I'd rather listen to every song Ringo drummed on over any song Danny Carey played on...
Thought you where supposed to be a music guy?

Objectively, and subjectively, Carey is a far better drummer than Ringo, if your opinion is otherwise.. its just anti-carey-ism~

Listening to Ringo is like thinking about Carey when he was 5 and got his first drum set. Dude is the fucking GOAT, and there are some guys that you can put in the conversation with him, but Ringo aint one.
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Fish 09:25 PM 06-23-2020

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lewdog 09:28 PM 06-23-2020
I didn't realize how old he is.

Wow!
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DaneMcCloud 09:41 PM 06-23-2020
Sorry, but these threads and "arguments" are flat out dumb.

Yes, Danny Carey is a very, very good technical drummer that completely fits his band. Tool has an identifiable sound, which has been created mainly by Maynard and Danny Carey (the other guys are nice players and all but they're hardly standouts).

That said, Danny Carey's drum style is very limited. He's not a Pocket player and he doesn't have a groove or backbeat. He's not the type of guy that's playing on session after session, nor are producers anywhere hiring studio drummers to "Play like Danny Carey".

Ringo, on the other hand, is not only a phenomenal drummer but a phenomenal musician and songwriter. His pocket, backbeat and especially, his sound, is legendary. I can't tell you guys how many multi-platinum and Grammy-winning Producers that constantly look for guys that can "Play like Ringo". Ask any big time professional studio/session/touring drummer (including Danny) and they'll all tell you that Ringo is still a fucking badass.

Ringo played on about 200 Beatles songs, most of which, hit. You guys can argue chops all day long but at the end of the day, the guy that plays for the song, wins.

And Ringo definitely won.
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MTG#10 09:45 PM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Sorry, but these threads and "arguments" are flat out dumb.

Yes, Danny Carey is a very, very good technical drummer that completely fits his band. Tool has an identifiable sound, which has been created by Maynard and Danny Carey (the other guys are nice players and all but they're hardly standouts).

That said, Danny Carey's drum style is very limited. He's not a Pocket player and he doesn't have a groove or backbeat. He's not the type of guy that's playing on session after session, nor are producers anywhere hiring studio drummers to "Play like Danny Carey".

Ringo, on the other hand, is not only a phenomenal drummer but a phenomenal musician and songwriter. His pocket, backbeat and especially, his sound, is legendary. I can't tell you guys how many multi-platinum and Grammy-winning Producers that constantly look for guys that can "Play like Ringo". Ask any big time professional studio/session/touring drummer (including Danny) and they'll all tell you that Ringo is still a ****ing badass.

Ringo played on about 200 Beatles songs, most of which, hit. You guys can argue chops all day long but at the end of the day, the guy that plays for the song, wins.

And Ringo definitely won.
Yeah, bullshit. You can find better drummers than Ringo at any Guitar Center. This seriously may be the worst musical take I've ever read.
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DaneMcCloud 09:54 PM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by MTG#10:
Yeah, bullshit. You can find better drummers than Ringo at any Guitar Center. This seriously may be the worst musical take I've ever read.
:-)

Glad to see you around
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hometeam 09:55 PM 06-23-2020
People aren't hiring guys to play like Carey because nobody can do the shit he does. They can try to copy specific licks, but they cant compose it in the way that only he does.

That's why hes the GOAT, and there are thousands of regular jack offs that can play like Ringo.
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DaneMcCloud 10:10 PM 06-23-2020
Originally Posted by hometeam:
People aren't hiring guys to play like Carey because nobody can do the shit he does. They can try to copy specific licks, but they cant compose it in the way that only he does.

That's why hes the GOAT, and there are thousands of regular jack offs that can play like Ringo.
Good god, no.

Again, Danny fits Tool perfectly, just like Neil Pearl fit Rush perfectly.

And while both of them are Masters of their own styles, they’re not masters of every style.

Arguing about who is “better”, when both Rings and Danny have had massive success with their respective bands, is a silly waste of time.

Neither band would be even remotely the same had any other drummer been a member.
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hometeam 10:19 PM 06-23-2020

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MTG#10 05:57 AM 06-24-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
:-)

Glad to see you around
Thanks man, didn't plan on it but Tool threads will always bring me out from under my rock.

Seriously though, to say Ringo "wins" because he's recorded more songs is silly. And just because none of Danny's bands fit that style doesn't mean he couldn't carry a groove/backbeat if he wanted to. I've read somewhere he's an excellent jazz drummer, that's how he was originally trained but too lazy to look it up.

I'd bet my house Danny could listen to any Beatles song once and perform an exact replica of Ringo's elementary beats. Hell, I can play damn near every Beatles song and I only have 4 years of percussion in high school. Ringo probably couldn't even count some of Danny's polyrhythms.
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