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The Lounge>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

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LiveSteam 08:15 AM 02-27-2020
Never let a crisis go to waist.
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BWillie 08:22 AM 02-27-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
This is the big takeaway.
The main take away is, hide yo children, hide yo grandparents, shits about to get real. Fat guys in here over 60...be careful.
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BWillie 08:30 AM 02-27-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Kinda like the flu?
Yes like the flu but with a much much much higher mortality rate and an R0 rate of at least twice that off the flu. Which means it will spread twice as fast as the flu if left unchecked.
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TLO 08:36 AM 02-27-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Yes like the flu but with a much much much higher mortality rate and an R0 rate of at least twice that off the flu. Which means it will spread twice as fast as the flu if left unchecked.
The mortality rate is still incredibly low (based upon the numbers we have). The majority people that have experienced issues are older people with underlying medical issues.

Who knows how many people had symptoms and never reported them. The mortality rate may be even lower than we have numbers on now.

The truth is nobody really knows. This isn't some super flu that's going to wipe out half the population, but the precautions are definitely warranted.

You're definitely right about it being more contagious - which is the most worrying aspect. We don't need it infecting nursing homes/hospitals etc.
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Mecca 08:39 AM 02-27-2020
If you have a shitty immune system yes you should be concerned but to watch everyone lose it is sad. A friend of mine is such a dumbass he wants to lock his children in the house because he thinks everyone is going to die.

Some people watch way to much news.
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Hammock Parties 08:41 AM 02-27-2020
i can't wait to defend my homestead with guns

this is it!!!!
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BWillie 08:50 AM 02-27-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
If you have a shitty immune system yes you should be concerned but to watch everyone lose it is sad. A friend of mine is such a dumbass he wants to lock his children in the house because he thinks everyone is going to die.

Some people watch way to much news.
Hey I'm not worried about it myself. I'm worried about the old Boomers on Chiefsplanet keeling over dead from Covid-19.
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tatorhog 08:53 AM 02-27-2020
A friend of mine bought up a bunch of n95 rated masks in early January. He's flipping them now and making some serious coin.

I thought he was being nutty when he bought them, but he seems to have been on his game for sure.
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nychief 09:00 AM 02-27-2020
It's a bronchial virus that leads to viral pneumonia and can lead to death, especially in older people. Children are actually okay, because they are exposed to so many other corona viruses (colds). There is no treatment at the moment, highly contagious.


Listen to the The Daily today if you want a comprehensive update.
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DaFace 10:19 AM 02-27-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
If you have a shitty immune system yes you should be concerned but to watch everyone lose it is sad. A friend of mine is such a dumbass he wants to lock his children in the house because he thinks everyone is going to die.

Some people watch way to much news.
It's not worth "losing it" over, but it could be a MAJOR blow to the world economy if it keeps spreading. I have a trip to Italy planned for this summer, for example, and it's remotely possible that many of the tourists sites could be shut down by then in order to try and contain this thing.

On a more local level, it's possible that businesses will have to deal with big chunks of their workforce being sick at the same time. Deadlines will slip, and things just won't get done.

And on top of that, a small percentage of people will probably die from it. Will it be worse than a bad flu season? Tough to say. But it certainly doesn't seem to be slowing down any time soon.
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TLO 10:20 AM 02-27-2020
Originally Posted by nychief:
It's a bronchial virus that leads to viral pneumonia and can lead to death, especially in older people. Children are actually okay, because they are exposed to so many other corona viruses (colds). There is no treatment at the moment, highly contagious.


Listen to the The Daily today if you want a comprehensive update.
There are treatments for it. Various antiviral drugs have shown very good success in treating the virus. Remdesivir, a new antiviral medication is in the testing phase and has shown great results thus far.

There's so much misinformation being spread. I'm not looking to pump sunshine and rainbows to everyone, but there's absolutely no reason to go into panic mode right now.
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Mecca 10:20 AM 02-27-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
It's not worth "losing it" over, but it could be a MAJOR blow to the world economy if it keeps spreading. I have a trip to Italy planned for this summer, for example, and it's remotely possible that many of the tourists sites could be shut down by then in order to try and contain this thing.

On a more local level, it's possible that businesses will have to deal with big chunks of their workforce being sick at the same time. Deadlines will slip, and things just won't get done.

And on top of that, a small percentage of people will probably die from it. Will it be worse than a bad flu season? Tough to say. But it certainly doesn't seem to be slowing down any time soon.
I completely listen to that argument, but his thing is "people are dying!" that's overblown.
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SuperBowl4 10:22 AM 02-27-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
If you have a shitty immune system yes you should be concerned but to watch everyone lose it is sad. A friend of mine is such a dumbass he wants to lock his children in the house because he thinks everyone is going to die.

Some people watch way to much news.
Was he around for Y2K? Did he have a plan then?
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SuperBowl4 10:25 AM 02-27-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
It's not worth "losing it" over, but it could be a MAJOR blow to the world economy if it keeps spreading. I have a trip to Italy planned for this summer, for example, and it's remotely possible that many of the tourists sites could be shut down by then in order to try and contain this thing.

On a more local level, it's possible that businesses will have to deal with big chunks of their workforce being sick at the same time. Deadlines will slip, and things just won't get done.

And on top of that, a small percentage of people will probably die from it. Will it be worse than a bad flu season? Tough to say. But it certainly doesn't seem to be slowing down any time soon.
Wouldn't YOU rather take a trip to MARS and stay there until this whole COVID-19 thing blows over? :-)
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DaFace 10:27 AM 02-27-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I completely listen to that argument, but his thing is "people are dying!" that's overblown.
I recently read a book called Factfulness that tries to point out all of the weird (wrong) perceptions we have about how awful the world is. One of the concepts the author puts out there is that we should always be skeptical of "lonely numbers" - numbers that sound really bad, but we don't have any context for.

This is definitely a time for that. While 2,814 deaths from Coronavirus sounds bad, the flu kills between 291,000 and 646,000 each year, so we're nowhere near that level for now. It's just a question of how long it'll keep growing as fast as it is now.

The book also points out another common issue - people always assume that things will keep growing linearly. At some point, the spreading will taper off either due to human intervention or just because most of the vulnerable people have already been infected. It's just a matter of how long it takes us to get to that point.
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