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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
I know lewdog (and maybe others) have mentioned the desire to have a place to chat about personal finance stuff. We'll see if there's enough interest to keep this going in the long-term, but at least for now, here's a place to chat about whatever personal finance topics come up.



If you're just getting started thinking about saving and don't know where to begin,
this flow chart can help. Ask for advice in the thread for more help!
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ThaVirus 09:34 AM 06-28-2020
I'm a millennial myself. My dad is one of those hardass parents. A couple months after I turned 18 he told me I needed to look for my own place. Due to some unexpected circumstances in his own life, he allowed me to stay for another year (while paying him rent).

I moved out at 19 and never looked back. I was making $7.25/hr, going to school full time without financial aid, living in a major metro area. Shit was rough.

I wonder now what kind of parent I'll be when the time comes. My dad was cold but I can't deny that being forced into taking the leap probably made me a stronger/more responsible person.
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displacedinMN 10:32 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:

I wonder now what kind of parent I'll be when the time comes. My dad was cold but I can't deny that being forced into taking the leap probably made me a stronger/more responsible person.
Today that is called emotional abuse.:-)
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lewdog 02:39 PM 06-28-2020
Wheel Strategy Article that I found helpful. I have sold puts and covered calls in similar but not exact fashion. I like the theory behind this technique and I may run with it for value stocks I may like owning anyway.

Originally Posted by :
The Wheel Strategy is a systematic and very powerful way to sell covered calls as part of a long-term trading strategy.

The process starts with a selling a cash secured put. The investor also needs to be willing, and have the funds available to purchase 200 shares.

After selling the initial put, the put either expires or is assigned. If it expires, they keep the premium and start again if they are still bullish on the stock, or they move on to another stock. If they are assigned, they take ownership of 100 shares.


At this point they sell a call to turn it into a covered call and they also sell a new put.

From here, if the stock goes up through your call, you are assigned and the stock is called away leaving you flat. As the stock went up, your sold put expires worthless.

If the stock goes down, you are assigned on the second put, and you now have your full allocation of 200 shares. As the stock went down, the call expires worthless.

Now that you own 200 shares, you sell two calls.

If the stock goes up through the calls, the stock is called away and your position is flat again.

Through the process you have collected 5 option premiums, plus any dividends while holding the shares, plus potentially some capital gains, depending at which strikes you sold the calls and puts.

If the stock continues down, you can continue to sell 2 covered calls each month.

This process is best explained in the following diagram:



https://optionstradingiq.com/the-wheel-strategy/
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jdubya 02:55 PM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I'm a millennial myself. My dad is one of those hardass parents. A couple months after I turned 18 he told me I needed to look for my own place. Due to some unexpected circumstances in his own life, he allowed me to stay for another year (while paying him rent).

I moved out at 19 and never looked back. I was making $7.25/hr, going to school full time without financial aid, living in a major metro area. Shit was rough.

I wonder now what kind of parent I'll be when the time comes. My dad was cold but I can't deny that being forced into taking the leap probably made me a stronger/more responsible person.
Rough? That was considered 100% normal back in the 70`s and 80`s when me and my brothers got out of school. Same with most of everybody we knew. We were glad and wanting to do it because we wanted independence so badly. We also were first in line at the DMV on our 16th birthdays. Different times but loved them.
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Hammock Parties 03:54 PM 06-28-2020
LFGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Stock futures open at 6pm. Grab your nuts! pic.twitter.com/qVDtptOc83

— Dave Portnoy (@stoolpresidente) June 28, 2020

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Discuss Thrower 03:58 PM 06-28-2020



Gen Xers lagged far behind Baby Boomers in the percentage of U.S. household wealth held at similar ages. Millennials lag even further behind.

Boomers continue to hold steady at over 56% of U.S. household wealth.
pic.twitter.com/4ICYseGAYZ

— Gray Kimbrough (@graykimbrough) November 24, 2019

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ThaVirus 05:44 PM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by jdubya:
Rough? That was considered 100% normal back in the 70`s and 80`s when me and my brothers got out of school. Same with most of everybody we knew. We were glad and wanting to do it because we wanted independence so badly. We also were first in line at the DMV on our 16th birthdays. Different times but loved them.
In the 70s you could support your wife and two kids off of your salary at the factory fresh out of high school with no degree.

Different times indeed.
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displacedinMN 06:18 PM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
In the 70s you could support your wife and two kids off of your salary at the factory fresh out of high school with no degree.

Different times indeed.
It is expensive to live indeed. But too many cannot understand spend less than you make.
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HonestChieffan 10:01 PM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
In the 70s you could support your wife and two kids off of your salary at the factory fresh out of high school with no degree.

Different times indeed.
What did you do for work in the 70ís?
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Munson 05:50 AM 06-29-2020
IBIO up around 23% in pre-market trading.
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Hammock Parties 07:12 AM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by Munson:
IBIO up around 23% in pre-market trading.

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scho63 06:13 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by displacedinMN:
next year we will be empty nesters. Unless the oldest has to live with us until she gets a job. She will have to pay rent.
You know your ONLY job now right?

Keep her off the pole! :-)

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Hog's Gone Fishin 07:15 PM 06-29-2020
:-)
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Hog's Gone Fishin 07:20 PM 06-29-2020
Looking back, I'm so glad I sold NVDA at a profit at $65. If I had held on I'd probably think I was a genius or something and people around me would be annoyed.
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displacedinMN 08:17 PM 06-29-2020
Originally Posted by scho63:
You know your ONLY job now right?

Keep her off the pole! :-)
Not an issue there.
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