Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
There's no way he'll become Marty schottenheimer. But I don't think he'll be Andy Reid as much either. The Andy Reid who barely runs the ball and replaces runs with screens. I could see the Houston game plan being much more the norm. It's going to be a whole lot less sexy but it's going to be hella hard to beat.
This is going to be a much more balanced offense than we're recently used to. Even more than when we has kareem hunt.
The most 'balanced' Andy's ever been was when he called about 43-47% run plays, with JC, IIRC. Doubt we'll see that, except occasionally, a game here or there. Tonight was an outlier.
But any game where we run 25+ times, we probably win, because it means we're running out the clock in the 2nd half/4th quarter. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
The most 'balanced' Andy's ever been was when he called about 43-47% run plays, with JC, IIRC. Doubt we'll see that, except occasionally, a game here or there. Tonight was an outlier.
But any game where we run 25+ times, we probably win, because it means we're running out the clock in the 2nd half/4th quarter.
But the difference is that I can see us running a lot more on 1st down and second and long. No longer the "take 3 aggressive shots for 10+" approach. Look at Green Bay. Rodgers never runs the ball and now they're averaging 28 carries per game after Rodgers had an off year last year. I don't think it's just the Chiefs, defenses in general have started to adapt to vertical attacks.
It's not R2P2. It's just seeing a steady diet of early down runs. And I wonder if the Chiefs spend the next few games annihilating defenses with their run game just to prove they can so that during the playoff stretch we can go back to a normal offense. One way or another we have to pull a guy out of coverage and we won't do that until we consistently show that we'll make defenses pay with our running game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
There's no way he'll become Marty schottenheimer. But I don't think he'll be Andy Reid as much either. The Andy Reid who barely runs the ball and replaces runs with screens. I could see the Houston game plan being much more the norm. It's going to be a whole lot less sexy but it's going to be hella hard to beat.
This is going to be a much more balanced offense than we're recently used to. Even more than when we has kareem hunt.
People are going to be sorely disappointed if they expect 62-year old Andy Reid, less than a year after winning a Superbowl, to suddenly stop running his offense the way he's been running it for more than two decades. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
But the difference is that I can see us running a lot more on 1st down and second and long. No longer the "take 3 aggressive shots for 10+" approach. Look at Green Bay. Rodgers never runs the ball and now they're averaging 28 carries per game after Rodgers had an off year last year. I don't think it's just the Chiefs, defenses in general have started to adapt to vertical attacks.
It's not R2P2. It's just seeing a steady diet of early down runs. And I wonder if the Chiefs spend the next few games annihilating defenses with their run game just to prove they can so that during the playoff stretch we can go back to a normal offense. One way or another we have to pull a guy out of coverage and we won't do that until we consistently show that we'll make defenses pay with our running game.
Not sure where we disagree.
All I'm saying is that running 40+ times isn't what Andy wants, nor is it what the team was built to do.
But if we try to use history, Andy has called entire seasons where we ran about 40% of the time. I think that's as balanced as it's ever going to get, unless we play a game in a hurricane and Hill and Kelce aren't on the field for some reason. [Reply]
I think this game was more about debunking the "blueprint" talk from the last couple of weeks.
This.
It was a shit weather game that favored running the football, and Buffalo essentially fielded the KC 2018 run defense tonight. Our rushing attack ripped them a new asshole play after play.
We have not been able to make that happen against light boxes the past couple games, and I think Reid and Bieniemy just put together a great plan to shut that nonsense down once and for all.
With a new look O line, we moved the ball at will, and Mahomes was a surgeon, even in the inclement weather.
Andy showed tonight that the Chiefs offense is more than willing and able to slowly bleed you out If thats how you want to lose the game. [Reply]
It was a shit weather game that favored running the football, and Buffalo essentially fielded the KC 2018 run defense tonight. Our rushing attack ripped them a new asshole play after play.
We have not been able to make that happen against light boxes the past couple games, and I think Reid and Bieniemy just put together a great plan to shut that nonsense down once and for all.
With a new look O line, we moved the ball at will, and Mahomes was a surgeon, even in the inclement weather.
Andy showed tonight that the Chiefs offense is more than willing and able to slowly bleed you out If thats how you want to lose the game.
it'll take more than one game to prove that point. On the one hand it worked today and in Houston. But teams will still prefer that slow bleed. Even with a dominant performance a few mistakes made this way closer than it should've been. In new England they bended but didn't break. In LAC and oak we looked just plain flat for a half.
We need a few more dominant run performances before defenses start pulling a defender or 2 out of coverage. And that's what we really want. Maybe our new look OL solves problems. But I don't think today's performance changes how badly we need leveon. Did we prove enough that we'd look better in New England or LAC on a re-do? I don't know. But with Leveon, I think we will. [Reply]
