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Nzoner's Game Room>Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust
DJ's left nut 09:27 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by 493rd:
A bust like CJ Stroud was supposed to be? A bust like many thought Patrick Mahomes might be? Nobody knows shit at this point despite all the lip-flapping going on.
You mean a bust like Bryce Young was supposed to be? Like many thought Johnny Manziel might be?

Not much of a retort.

Nothing is ever truly 'known' in the draft. But what you can do is look at things that impact odds and probabilities.

You'd really prefer Williams not have these sort of aloof and egocentric tendencies. Because again, that's not going to make him friends in the clubhouse. And anything that decreases the probability of success (i.e. your O-Line doesn't really care if you get hit, your WRs aren't going to give up their body to pull in your slightly misplaced pass) is a bad thing.
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Lzen 09:23 AM 03-01-2024
I really couldn't care less about this guy. But as others have pointed out, he seems like a self absorbed, arrogant, douche. I never have cared for people like that. And if his NFL career is a failure, I won't feel bad for him.


But I'm still curious, what was that about a dress?
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Bwana 09:30 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Lzen:
I really couldn't care less about this guy. But as others have pointed out, he seems like a self absorbed, arrogant, douche. I never have cared for people like that. And if his NFL career is a failure, I won't feel bad for him.


But I'm still curious, what was that about a dress?

Likewise
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stumppy 09:37 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Lzen:
I really couldn't care less about this guy. But as others have pointed out, he seems like a self absorbed, arrogant, douche. I never have cared for people like that. And if his NFL career is a failure, I won't feel bad for him.


But I'm still curious, what was that about a dress?
Same here.
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Eleazar 10:04 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Lzen:
I really couldn't care less about this guy. But as others have pointed out, he seems like a self absorbed, arrogant, douche. I never have cared for people like that. And if his NFL career is a failure, I won't feel bad for him.
There was a lot of the same type of pre-draft talk about Geno Smith, and more than that the mental toughness aspects, believing he'd already "arrived" and was read to dominate in the NFL. What you would call "makeup" in baseball, that he didn't have it.
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Gary Cooper 09:23 AM 03-01-2024
USC produces such wonderful NFL QBs. What could possibly go wrong?
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stumppy 09:28 AM 03-01-2024
https://firstroundmock.com/2024/02/f...test-decision/

Former NFL Scout Removes Caleb Williams From Draft Board Due to Latest Decision
February 26, 2024 | Daniel Kelly | Articles


Decisions are like footballs and with USC quarterback Caleb Williams’ latest decision not to throw at the NFL Scouting Combine, I am officially removing him from my draft board at First Round Mock ⎯completely. I’ve seen and heard enough.

I’ll keep the fourth-round evaluation on Williams which reflects his performance on game film over the past two seasons (I’ve evaluated every snap) and how his skillset projects to the NFL. In short, he’s an elite athlete, who’s underdeveloped as a quarterback. That’s not a hot take, it’s the truth (and my end game isn’t clicks, it’s to get a second chance in the NFL).

For starters, his 3.21 second time to throw (PFF) doesn’t translate well to the next level. Bears’ quarterback Justin Fields has the slowest time to throw in the NFL at 3.23 seconds (Next Gen Stats).

We’ll get back to that............... More at the link.
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JohnnyHammersticks 09:29 AM 03-01-2024
If I was running the Bears I'd take the massive haul I could get by trading out of the #1 spot and let someone else deal with this weirdo.
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Pablo 09:32 AM 03-01-2024
I am excited to see how Caleb Williams fairs as a leader of men.
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JohnnyHammersticks 09:39 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Pablo:
I am excited to see how Caleb Williams fairs as a leader of men.
Bet they have the nicest nails in the league. Weekly manicures and pedicures.

If they win a SB he'll be the first QB to buy his OL the latest Dior dresses.
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displacedinMN 09:32 AM 03-01-2024
But at least he will be part owner of the team
:-):-):-):-):-):-)


then looking at the OP tweet--what a fucking egomaniac. I hope he fails miserably.
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nychief 09:34 AM 03-01-2024
I think he's going to be amazing. I don't really get the hate for him. He's been trying to use what little leverage he has to be in the best position - QBs have been doing this since Elway.
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MahomesMagic 09:39 AM 03-01-2024
I don't know about that but the Bears I am predicting will trade down with Washington, get extra 1st round picks from Wash and then select Drake Maye who is a better fit for a Sean McVay, precision style offense.

KK and Caleb? Eh.
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Hog Rider 09:50 AM 03-01-2024
Give him another participation trophy then tell him to be good or you'll get a time out.
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raybec 4 09:54 AM 03-01-2024
One of my buddies sent me a clip from an Outkick (I know) podcast. They were saying that Williams hasn't hired an NFLPA approved agent because during the interview process they were asking potential agents if they'd be willing to subvert the collective bargaining agreement by demanding the team break the rookie scale. I have no idea if that's true.

https://video.outkick.com/m/eoQ9wH6r...on-and-withrow
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