I can't be the only wrestling fan on this site. In fact, I know I that's not the case. The almighty king of n00bs, Sorter, is a wrestling fan. I figure there could be more.....????
Discuss anything wrestling related:
Youth wrestling: Heck, wrestling in Iowa has a rabid Youth wrestling scene...I lived through it, my younger brother lived through it and my brothers who are 15 and 13 are living through it, well the 13 year old is anyway...he's in high school. The 13 year old is a 7th grader who has been wrestling since he was 5 years old and has accumulated 4 state championships since his second grade year...a total badass. Believe it or not, Iowa has a youth wrestling forum that is hopping...even during the summer. Iowans take this stuff seriously. I'm assuming other states have rabid youth followings, for when I watch my bros at National tourneys, we are constantly running into kids and super clubs from other states that are amazing. Ironically, one of the biggest youth tourneys our club hits annually is the Park Hill Individual and Dual tournament...which to my knowledge is in Kansas City (I've never attended that one). Do any of you have kids who are wrestling? If so, how are they doing?
High School Wrestling: High school and college wrestling in Iowa is big... we are known for it, ask AC Slater. State tournament is a big, televised event at the Wells Fargo dome...you will see probably 10 times more spectators at state wrestling in Iowa then any other high school sporting event in Iowa. With some of the crazy talent I have seen/wrestled against at Fargo Nationals, I am assuming that it's either on the rise or just as big in other states as well... What are your thoughts on some of the high school wrestlers and/or teams out there?
College Wrestling: Hell, you Missourians semi-recently had those Askren brothers. I've never met Max, but have met Ben. He was the celebrity guest at Iowa Grade School State one year...he signed autographs and handed the medals and wall charts to all of the kids on the podium that year, which was cool because my youngest brother won it that year and was able to get his championship singlet signed by him. I was with my brother when he approached him....Askren struck me as a funny, goofy type of dude. I don't know Max, but someone posted his blog on an Iowa wrestling message board and the dude seems like a character. I know there are some Oklahomans' who post on this board. Anyone see Okie State defeat Iowa this past weekend? Iowa's first dual loss of the year. Anyone have any thoughts on college wrestling?
International Wrestling: Any of you have any thoughts on the international wrestling scene? Future Olympians, future Olympic champs, future World champs, Greco, Freestyle, etc.?
Wrestling Memories/General Discussion: Any of you have any memories you'd like to share from your personal experience(s) of wrestling when you were in youth, high school or college? Any opinions on females wrestling with males. Last year, a girl named Megan Black made history in Iowa by placing at state. Do you believe females should be able to wrestle with males at that age? Any thoughts on weight cutting? What are some of the most memorable matches to you? Who are your favorite wrestlers? One match that always sticks out to me is this:
Crazy match.
My favorite wrestler (besides my bros and former teammates) of all time is ironically not an Iowan. I don't really have a favorite team in wrestling...I root for individuals. It's a dude from Ohio that I initially hated because I didn't like the way he conducted himself after a match vs. my brother in the national duals when he and my brother were Seniors in High School, in which he defeated my brother. Kid was cocky. He and my brother both went on to wrestle D1, so I followed him since I knew who he was. I ended up becoming a huge fan of the kid's style...the kid could hit cradles from ANY position. He went on to win 2 National titles for Ohio State...and did so both years as an underdog, for he'd lose quite a few silly matches during the season, presumably due to his risky, but dangerous style that worked well for him at NCAA Nationals. It's a dude named Jeff Jaggers. First vid is what really put his name on the map as a high school wrestler. 2nd vid is his 1st NCAA championship as a Junior, in a match where he was a huge underdog, broke his ankle during the match and gutted it out and won. My favorite wrestlers tend to be the ones who are risk takers or brawlers...not afraid to be aggressive or take chances. I can't stand stallish wrestlers who are successful as hell simply because they don't open up and therefore don't give up points and score their own points by capitalizing on the other wrestler's aggression. Boring.
So what ya got?
Note: I have been posting on wrestling message boards for 12 years and I (and I'm sure everyone else involved with the sport) have heard every wrestling joke (rolling around with men, etc.) imaginable, but if ya want to clown on the sport, shoot... it was inevitable to happen anyways on CP, so have at it! [Reply]
Originally Posted by NewChief:
Yes. First year. Division I. It just drives me freaking nuts how inconsistent he is.
Maybe throw in a few international style practices this spring/summer. Freestyle and Greco are different enough that he could get that fire going again. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss:
Any post-season wrestling plans for the bros, Rico?
Starting off with the Mick Pickford Tri-State (IA, IL, MO) tourney in a couple weeks and from then on they will be hitting the freestyle and Greco scene hard. Both of their goals are to be All Americans at Fargo.
For college, I will be following diligently because I am in 2 pools and a fantasy wrestling league. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss:
Maybe throw in a few international style practices this spring/summer. Freestyle and Greco are different enough that he could get that fire going again.
This for sure. It will totally diversify your boys style and capabilities for folkstyle due to experiencing different positions that he wouldn't find himself in during folkstyle. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
watched a couple of their matches, they had a great tournament Rico. Felt pretty bad for the other kid we talked about.
Thanks man! Brennan wrestled real well on the winner side, but man did he make some bone-headed mistakes that cost him in the consol-semis and for 5th and 6th. Freshman stuff, I hope...he could have very well pushed for 3rd of you take away 1-2 giant mistakes he made.
Shea wrestled pretty solid. He was set on winning it this year, and frankly... The champ dominated him...I felt bad for him for falling short there, but was happy about how he did as a whole. Nothing came easy for him like it did his 3 bros... He had to work his tail off and take baby steps in terms of progression since he was a 1st grader...and he has turned out to be a great little wrestler. I'm proud of my baby bros. :-) [Reply]
If you guys were to select sleeper picks or surprise champs for NCAA Championships for each weight, who would you select to do well? I'm in a pool where the lower a guy is ranked, the more points you get if he does well.
Who are your picks for the champs at each weight? [Reply]
Originally Posted by NewChief:
Thanks. That's awesome!
They haven't really been teaching them that technique. It's been mainly double-leg sprawls, trying to get head control as you sprawl then spin to gain the opponent's back and score, break them down with a chop or ankle pick and run a half. Which tends to work all day with Division I around here, but I imagine isn't going to serve them well in the long run.
I'd definitely try to get your son drilling down blocking quite a bit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sorter:
Congrats Rico. Your brothers look good. Hope they can bring home some hardware this summer!
Thanks man! They need to hit the weights real hard in the offseason and the older one needs to figure something out on bottom... If they do that, I think they will hopefully be on their way. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rico:
If you guys were to select sleeper picks or surprise champs for NCAA Championships for each weight, who would you select to do well? I'm in a pool where the lower a guy is ranked, the more points you get if he does well.
Originally Posted by Sorter:
My picks aren't very imaginative.
Champs:
125- Waters
133- Clark
141-Steiber
149- Houdashelt
157- Martinez
165- Dieringer
174- Kokesh
184- Dean
197- J'Den
HWT- McMullan
My fantasy team consists of a lot of the guys you suggested the day before our draft...if they were available. I'm not winning, but I'm doing good. 3rd out of 12 teams so far! [Reply]
Originally Posted by rico:
My fantasy team consists of a lot of the guys you suggested the day before our draft...if they were available. I'm not winning, but I'm doing good. 3rd out of 12 teams so far!
Originally Posted by rico:
If you guys were to select sleeper picks or surprise champs for NCAA Championships for each weight, who would you select to do well? I'm in a pool where the lower a guy is ranked, the more points you get if he does well.
Who are your picks for the champs at each weight?
Guys who didn't wrestle a full season got punished a bit in seeding. Im not sure if your pool is going off ranking or seeds, but if seeds, then Cory Brewer of OU is an obvious pick at 133. He is the 13 seed, but could place top 4. Tough weight though.
Hunter Stieber and Josh Kindig went unseeded at 149, but both are injury concerns. Stieber's elbows are shot and he got rag dolled in the consi-semis against an inferior wrestler at Big Tens. In his previous wins, he asked the ref not to raise his arm after the match. Serious pain.
Storley at 174 is a 6 seed and could easily make the finals.
Nick Dardanes at 141 is a 6 seed and could also make the finals, but there is speculation about his health as well.
Devin Carter at the 4 seed (141) is ridiculous, but the best he will do is 3rd because Stieber is on his side
Zack Beitz (12) at 149 has a good draw but with a limited ceiling (low AA)
Pierce Harger at 165 is a dangerous wrestler as a 7 seed. Avoids Dieringer, Sulzer,and Bo Jordan on the opposite side of the brcket. Tough first round draw though.
Brett Pfarr the 11 seed at 184 could make a run. The bottom side of that bracket is pretty open.
Coon as the 6 seed at 285 is a pretty decent pick. [Reply]
