I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.
Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us. [Reply]
Watching Darnold's pro day workout & Mayock breaks out a Mahomes story about at his pro day he threw it 80-85 yards across his body. He said he was surrounded by 7-8 scout's with 30+ years experience & none had seen anything like it. [Reply]
Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline passes along that Texas Tech QB Nic Shimonek "show[ed] arm strength and decent accuracy" during Friday's pro day.
"The feeling leaving the workout was that Shimonek has a real chance to develop into a backup at the next level," Pauline writes. He notes that the 6-foot-3, 220-pounder really let loose his arm at the end of the workout, uncorking a pair of 75-yard passes. Shimonek profiles as a potential late-round project or undrafted free agent for next month.
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline passes along that Texas Tech QB Nic Shimonek "show[ed] arm strength and decent accuracy" during Friday's pro day.
"The feeling leaving the workout was that Shimonek has a real chance to develop into a backup at the next level," Pauline writes. He notes that the 6-foot-3, 220-pounder really let loose his arm at the end of the workout, uncorking a pair of 75-yard passes. Shimonek profiles as a potential late-round project or undrafted free agent for next month.
There’s Pats new backup.
He is used to being Pat's backup and they get along very well with each other. But Shim has some of the same issues you guys disliked about Alex.
Shim is deathly afraid of throwing picks to the point he hangs onto the ball in critical situations instead of trying to make a play. Or chicken out and throw it way past the back of the end zone on 4th and goal with the game on the line...
Not that anyone cares in particular, but my QB rankings as of right now:
1. Rosen
2. Darnold
3. Mayfield
4. Jackson
5. Allen
I think Jackson could be decent if the right coach gets ahold of him but it’s going to take a perfect situation. I don’t have high expectations for Allen at all wherever he goes. [Reply]
1. Darnold
2. Rosen
3. Allen
4. Mayfield
5. Jackson
I feel like even with Allen’s flaws, his ceiling is significantly higher than Mayfield and his attitude and ability to take coaching makes him better. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
1. Darnold
2. Rosen
3. Allen
4. Mayfield
5. Jackson
I feel like even with Allen’s flaws, his ceiling is significantly higher than Mayfield and his attitude and ability to take coaching makes him better.
Yeah truthfully I have no clue where to peg the bottom three. I think they all could be good QBs but I think fit is going to be very important to that.
The only thing I’m near 100% sure on at this time is that Rosen is my QB1. [Reply]
There is something about his attitude/demeanour that totally annoys me. I’m not sure he cares all that much about football. He is entitled and his ego will get challenged in an NFL locker room. He throws a great ball, is polished, but has a thin frame that might not hold up well to the physical rigor.
I think Darnold and Mayfield will have the longest shelf life out of this crop. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
Just me, but I think Rosen will bust.
There is something about his attitude/demeanour that totally annoys me. I’m not sure he cares all that much about football. He is entitled and his ego will get challenged in an NFL locker room. He throws a great ball, is polished, but has a thin frame that might not hold up well to the physical rigor.
I think Darnold and Mayfield will have the longest shelf life out of this crop.
Rosen had 2 concussions last season and people wonder if he could just end up giving up the NFL in a few years simply bc he doesn’t need it. I think he’s a spoiled rotten millennial douche like Baker Mayfield. The kid had a ****ing hot tub in his dorm room as a Freshman.
Speaking of being a douche, Baker Mayfield already has a documentary of his draft experience that he’s promoting.
I’m so glad Pat isn’t like that. He seems way more focused and down to business. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
Just me, but I think Rosen will bust.
There is something about his attitude/demeanour that totally annoys me. I’m not sure he cares all that much about football. He is entitled and his ego will get challenged in an NFL locker room. He throws a great ball, is polished, but has a thin frame that might not hold up well to the physical rigor.
I think Darnold and Mayfield will have the longest shelf life out of this crop.
If you protect him I think Rosen will be great. I just don't think he's tough enough, athletic enough (he's not a total statue though), or thick enough to play behind a subpar OL.
I'm not THAT concerned with his attitude. There's been rumblings in Green Bay that Rodgers' teammates don't really like him, but they still win when he's in there. [Reply]
There was a video from the other day with Rosen working with Rodgers that kinda changed my tune on him. He seemed genuinely interested in learning. Wasn’t afraid to ask questions, no matter how simple or complex they were.
I think he’s probably pretty cocky and maybe even a dick, but I think it’ll translate fine if he’s willing to work hard. If he isn’t interested in burying himself in his playbook and game tape, he will bust. But if he does put in the time, I think he’ll be a very good to great QB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
There was a video from the other day with Rosen working with Rodgers that kinda changed my tune on him. He seemed genuinely interested in learning. Wasn’t afraid to ask questions, no matter how simple or complex they were.
I think he’s probably pretty cocky and maybe even a dick, but I think it’ll translate fine if he’s willing to work hard. If he isn’t interested in burying himself in his playbook and game tape, he will bust. But if he does put in the time, I think he’ll be a very good to great QB.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Rosen had 2 concussions last season and people wonder if he could just end up giving up the NFL in a few years simply bc he doesn’t need it. I think he’s a spoiled rotten millennial douche like Baker Mayfield. The kid had a ****ing hot tub in his dorm room as a Freshman.
Speaking of being a douche, Baker Mayfield already has a documentary of his draft experience that he’s promoting.
I’m so glad Pat isn’t like that. He seems way more focused and down to business.
I think Rosen's "attitude" is being blown way out of proportion. Honestly, it's pretty funny that he bought an Intex $300 inflatable hot tub and put it in his dorm room. I guarantee you every other kid in his dorm said "why didn't I think of that."
Rosen's biggest red flag is his injury history. [Reply]