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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Extremists move to secret online channels to plan for Inauguration Day in D.C.
Pitt Gorilla 02:01 PM 01-12-2021
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...y-d-c-n1253876

Right-wing extremists are using channels on the encrypted communication app Telegram to call for violence against government officials on Jan. 20, the day President-elect Joe Biden is inaugurated, with some extremists sharing knowledge of how to make, conceal and use homemade guns and bombs.

The messages are being posted in Telegram chatrooms where white supremacist content has been freely shared for months, but chatter on these channels has increased since extremists have been forced off other platforms in the wake of the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol by pro-Trump rioters.

Telegram is a Dubai-based messaging service that does little moderation of its content and has a sizable international user base, particularly in eastern Europe and the Middle East.

In the days since the Capitol attack, for example, a U.S. Army field manual and exhortations to "shoot politicians" and "encourage armed struggle" have been posted in a Telegram channel that uses "fascist" in its name.

Chris Sampson, chief of research at the defense research institute Terror Asymmetrics Project on Strategy, Tactics and Radical Ideologies, said his group is focused on and concerned about users of the channel and has alerted the FBI about it. (TAPSTRI is run by Malcolm Nance, an NBC News terrorism analyst.)

“When they start calling for assassinations, when they start calling for action versus sharing information, we flag them a little higher," said Sampson. "Some channels merely swap information, but then they accelerated into conversations of where to be.”

Documents shared via the channel's file manager include "US Army explosives and demolitions manual," and "US Army Engineer course," as well as white supremacist content.

A post explaining how to radicalize Trump supporters to neo-Nazism has also circulated on the channel as well as other far right extremist channels.

Extremists are aware that they are under scrutiny, however, and in the fallout of the riot have been using online platforms to recalibrate their movements.

On Monday the FBI sent a memo to law enforcement agencies warning about possible armed protests at all 50 state Capitols starting Jan. 16.

In response, some Trump supporters with extremist views have used encrypted platforms to post warnings about avoiding local rallies in the coming days and instead wait for a big turnout in Washington at Biden's inauguration on Jan. 20.

"Do not attend armed protests at state capitols before inauguration! Possible sinister plot hatched by radical left to take away gun rights!" someone posted in a Telegram chatroom with thousands of members favored by the far right.

After Jan. 6, far-right extremists starting posting calls to arms for "round 2" on Inauguration Day in Washington.

A "Million Militia March" is also being planned, as well as a "Million Martyr March," the latter in honor of Ashli Babbitt, a veteran and a Trump supporter who was fatally shot during the storming of the Capitol. Babbitt has been hailed as a "martyr" in multiple posts.

An NBC News review, however, found little concrete planning occurring online for these events.

Moving to Telegram

News updates and content meant to inspire people to fight for President Donald Trump still abound on mainstream platforms.

A video stoking fears about a stolen election and galvanizing those who might want to fight on behalf of Trump was on YouTube for 12 hours on Monday. Ominous music plays in the background as Trump speeches are woven together with biblical verses. The video was recently removed for "violating YouTube's Community Guidelines."

But far-right Telegram chat room membership has ballooned in recent days, particularly since the popular platform Parler, financed by the wealthy conservative backer Rebekah Mercer, went offline Monday after Amazon rescinded its web-hosting service.

There are multiple Telegram channels for the right-wing group called the Proud Boys, and the largest of them have more than 28,000 members. One channel frequented by Proud Boys has been renamed to attract ex-Parler users.

"Now that they forced us off the main platforms it doesn't mean we go away, it just means we are going to go to places they don't see," a user posted in the chatroom intended for refugees from Parler.

Membership in that channel has increased by more than 10,000 in recent days. In September, the chatroom had 1,365 members. On Monday, it hosted 15,990 members, according to Megan Squire, professor of computer science at Elon University and a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center who tracks online extremism.

Another channel intended for Proud Boys has gained 8,870 followers, a 54 percent increase, since Jan. 6.

All of Parler's public posts have been preserved by a researcher who uses the Twitter handle @donk_enby. Telegram users posted about it on Monday, saying there is no hope of retroactively deleting posts or identifying information.

Gab, another platform favored by the far right, was also offline on Monday.

Squire said that when extremists are forced to shift from one platform to another it "creates an opportunity" for them "to make mistakes and reveal identifying information."

But Frank Figliuzzi, a former FBI assistant director and an NBC News national security analyst, said he worries about the double-edged sword when a platform known to host extremists is shut down.

"We had all this success with ISIS: We took out their command site but we also took away the ability to see the next lone wolf. We force them into the dark corners of the internet," Figliuzzi said.

"History repeats itself. We saw with Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram, they knocked these guys out and boom, where are they?"
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Cosmos 06:42 PM 01-12-2021
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
It's very unifying......the left calling pretty much anyone who doesn't toe their line sinister names.....

ooooo......supremist......ooooooooo......extremist......


**** off.
Any election fraud yet Tigger Team leader?

Fuck yourself.
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Megatron96 06:43 PM 01-12-2021
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Are you really this naive?
Are you? You really think there's going to be some kind of nationwide riot or something? You think they're actually going to go through with whatever nonsense they're talking about on some "secret" website? That apparently isn't very secret if we're talking about it right here on CP?

Think about it. Millions posted that they were going to Area 51 and make the govt. show them the aliens. A few thousand showed up. No one marched anywhere near Area 51. They had a couple parties instead and went home.

Relax.
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eDave 06:45 PM 01-12-2021
This is about protecting their identity over protecting where they are doing this stupid shit.
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DaneMcCloud 06:46 PM 01-12-2021
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Are you? You really think there's going to be some kind of nationwide riot or something? You think they're actually going to go through with whatever nonsense they're talking about on some "secret" website? That apparently isn't very secret if we're talking about it right here on CP?

Think about it. Millions posted that they were going to Area 51 and make the govt. show them the aliens. A few thousand showed up. No one marched anywhere near Area 51. They had a couple parties instead and went home.

Relax.
Apparently, just as with January 6th, you haven't been paying attention.

I'm kind of sick of repeating news stories that can be found anywhere with a Google search so go ahead an take 2 seconds to search for yourself.

It's not my lot in life to inform you of current events.
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Megatron96 06:53 PM 01-12-2021
So, according to the OP, we're literally talking about less than 30,000 'members.'

Based on the usual attrition between people that sign up for stuff vs. actually are motivated enough to get off their couch and do something, we can count on what? Less than 1,000 of them doing anything at all? Like about 600?
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Easy 6 07:00 PM 01-12-2021
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
So, according to the OP, we're literally talking about less than 30,000 'members.'

Based on the usual attrition between people that sign up for stuff vs. actually are motivated enough to get off their couch and do something, we can count on what? Less than 1,000 of them doing anything at all? Like about 600?
ARMED MILITIAS IN EVERY STATE CAPITOL SOON
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Megatron96 07:13 PM 01-12-2021
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
ARMED MILITIAS IN EVERY STATE CAPITOL SOON
i know. Scary. I'm going to make hot cocoa next Wednesday to help me stay calm. Considering using twice the usual number of marshmallows to alleviate my fears.
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Bump 07:15 PM 01-12-2021
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Apparently, just as with January 6th, you haven't been paying attention.

I'm kind of sick of repeating news stories that can be found anywhere with a Google search so go ahead an take 2 seconds to search for yourself.

It's not my lot in life to inform you of current events.

There's your problem. You are googling for corporate media to "inform" yourself.
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notorious 07:17 PM 01-12-2021
Don't fear 1000 guys without a plan.

Fear the 1 guy that does.
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Prison Bitch 07:52 PM 01-12-2021
Originally Posted by notorious:
Don't fear 1000 guys without a plan.

Fear the 1 guy that does.

Q-anon?
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eDave 07:55 PM 01-12-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Q-anon?
The Joe.
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HonestChieffan 08:01 PM 01-12-2021
So, like is there a link to this secret telegram? Or do we hear messages from them like BEP hears from her special places?
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ChiefsCountry 08:01 PM 01-12-2021
I think I would be worried about the Libtards taking out Joe Biden to let Cameltoe run the things and then blame the whole thing on Conservatives.
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DaneMcCloud 08:02 PM 01-12-2021
Originally Posted by Bump:
There's your problem. You are googling for corporate media to "inform" yourself.
YOU DON’T LIVE IN REALTY
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HonestChieffan 08:05 PM 01-12-2021
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
YOU DON’T LIVE IN REALTY
you are a guy way better informed than most. So dont be offended if you are asked to bring info forward. How can we learn more of these events? zPlease share what you know
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