Democrats plan to introduce articles of impeachment as early as Monday
From CNN's Lauren Fox, Manu Raju and Jamie Gangel
House Democrats are currently planning to introduce articles of impeachment against President Trump as soon as Monday, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
That could set up a vote in the House early to the middle of next week. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has not explicitly said when this will go to the floor.
This would be the second time the House has unveiled articles of impeachment against President Trump.
In December 2019, the House impeached Trump on charges of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. The Senate acquitted him on both charges last February.
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Originally Posted by Pogue:
It’ll cause irreparable damage for those that voted for Trump, voters will just go somewhere else. It’s happened before and killed a certain GOPe President chances of re-election after stabbing his base in the back.
GOPe President was left crying to his wife as the returns came in on election night.
Meh, a lot of people voted republican. Not for trump. Moderate republicans will come back. If he's not impeached he will be the next Perot and they know it. He's toast dude. The GOP better get rid of the Trumps or they are fucked for a decade. [Reply]
Unless it bars him from running for office again in the future, a conviction doesn't accomplish a whole lot with so little time remaining other than adding further lore to the shitshow that was the Trump administration. [Reply]
Originally Posted by arrowheadnation:
Unless it bars him from running for office again in the future, a conviction doesn't accomplish a whole lot with so little time remaining other than adding further lore to the shitshow that was the Trump administration.
Pretty sure it bars him from running for any governmental office. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Riflemen:
Meh, a lot of people voted republican. Not for trump. Moderate republicans will come back. If he's not impeached he will be the next Perot and they know it. He's toast dude. The GOP better get rid of the Trumps or they are fucked for a decade.
We just got a preview of how the GOPe runs elections, and that was the Georgia runoff election. The combination of Karl Rove’s minions blasting the state with communism/socialism ads and Mitch saying no to 2k to Americans (polling showed 80% in favor of 2k checks) was a master class in how to not generate enthusiasm for your candidates.
I don’t care what they do, they don’t have a spine either way. [Reply]
Even taking away the political reasons for doing so, I’d just do it based on principle. Trump’s insane behavior and its consequences Wednesday cannot be normalized in any regard if this country’s political system is ever going to recover from his tenure.
Whether he actually gets convicted this time will come down to what Mitch wants to do, but even if it doesn’t happen, I hardly see any harm for the Dems coming for it. The deranged Trumper cult will hate them no matter what they do. [Reply]
Originally Posted by banyon:
Just heard interesting angle: how many Republicans might sign onto removal to ensure the field in 2024 is clear for themselves or others they align with (Because the impeachment clause contains language about being prevented from holding federal office again)?
There are probably some moderate votes at this point: Murkowski, Romney, Collins, maybe Thune, Rounds, Portman, Toomey. But this angle would add the Senators motivated not by a sense of duty but by a sense of craven political self interest. There has to be another 10 votes there, right?
A few may do it for that reason among many. I still think they’ll need Mitch’s support in the Senate to actually convict. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Even taking away the political reasons for doing so, I’d just do it based on principle. Trump’s insane behavior and its consequences Wednesday cannot be normalized in any regard if this country’s political system is ever going to recover from his tenure.
Whether he actually gets convicted this time will come down to what Mitch wants to do, but even if it doesn’t happen, I hardly see any harm for the Dems coming for it. The deranged Trumper cult will hate them no matter what they do.
I said something similar upthread. Why even have impeachment power if you’re not going to use it when the present orchestrates a violent coup attempt. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
I said something similar upthread. Why even have impeachment power if you’re not going to use it when the present orchestrates a violent coup attempt.
Yeah it has to be used, if only to send the message to politicians both now and in future generations that such behavior isn’t acceptable. The US’s electoral system held up strong enough to this guy’s pressure this time but we can only hope it does in the future especially now that Trump has somewhat normalized this level of discourse.
If I had to guess, though, I don’t think they’ll successfully convict. I believe Mitch is delaying the trial so that he can have a practical reason for not voting to convict (that being that Trump is no longer in office so he can no longer be “removed”). Otherwise a vote to acquit would only be essentially an approval of Trump’s illegal actions and would look terrible on him (and the rest of the GOP). He’s trying to find a way out of having to make that decision and come out the other side still looking okay. [Reply]
