Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
Here is the complete draft history of Chiefs GM John Dorsey. It's littered with scrubs for the most part. If the player didn't grade out as a first day guy, Dorsey was pretty much clueless at identifying talent.
Building depth on your roster is done in the later rounds. Dorsey was very bad at building depth. I posit that any late round player that made an impact at all only did so because Reid was the head coach.
Eric Fisher - LT - 1st (Probably Reid)
Travis Kelce - TE - 3rd (Definitely Reid)
Knile Davis - RB - 3rd
Nico Johnson LB - 4th
Sander Commings - CB - 5th
Eric Kush - C - 6th
Braden Wilson - FB - 6th
Mike Catapano - DE - 7th
Dee Ford - DE - 1st
Philip Gaines - CB - 3rd
Dat - RB/WR - 4th
Andy Murray - QB - 5th
Zach Fulton - OL - 6th
LDT - OL - 6th
Marcus Peters - CB - 1st
Mitch Morse - OL - 2nd
Chris Conley - WR - 3rd
Steven Nelson - CB - 3rd
Ramik Wilson - LB - 4th
DJ Alexander - LB - 5th
James O'Shaugnessy - TE - 5th
Rakeem Nunez-Roches - DT - 6th
Da'Ron Brown - WR - 7th
Chris Jones - DT - 2nd
KeiVarae Russell - CB - 3rd
Parker Ehinger - OL - 4th
Eric Murray - CB - 4th
D-Rob - WR - 4th
Kevin Hogan - QB - 5th
Tyreek - WR - 5th
DJ White - CB - 6th
Dadi Nicolas - LB - 6th
Mahomes - QB - 1st (Bart Vatch & Reid)
TK - DE - 2nd
Kareem Hunt - RB - 3rd
Jehu Chesson - WR - 4th
Ukeme Eligwe - LB - 5th
Leon McQuay III - S - 6th
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Love how people pick and choose who's Dorsey and who's someone else. Of course the really good players must have been picked by someone other than Dorsey. smh
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Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It's not a debate. Nobody is saying he's bad at evaluating talent.
The issue is that evaluating talent only 1/3 of a GENERAL Manager's job.
He was legitimately bad at the other 2/3.
How is THAT even a debate?
This is what I think. He's great at talent evaluation and getting players but he wants too much control and that will and has bitten him.
But yeah there are people trying to act like he's not a good drafter/evaluator. There are a few people in this very thread crediting others for his picks mostly based on it was a good pick or not. Somehow all his good picks are because of Reid, Veach, or whoever else was in Cleveland. I can understand Reid, but the whole "it was Veach/other scout on this pick!" thing makes no sense. As if it's not Dorseys job to listen to his scouts and then make a decision.
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Originally Posted by JakeF:
Love how people pick and choose who's Dorsey and who's someone else. Of course the really good players must have been picked by someone other than Dorsey. smh
It is pretty funny how the duds were all Dorsey and he had nothing to do with the hits. In reality it was a group effort most likely. Dorsey obviously had a hand in building this team.
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