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MahomesMagic 08:21 AM 12-02-2020
Sources tell Matt Lombardo of FanSided that Eric Bieniemy and John Dorsey could be a package deal.
The upcoming hiring season should begin in the next few weeks in the NFL as one of several frustrated teams hungry for new leadership will make the first move to hire a new regime. For one team, it could include a reunion of former and current Kansas City Chiefs employees.

Matt Lombardo, National NFL columnist for FanSided, has word that former Chiefs general manager John Dorsey and current offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy might make themselves available as a package deal of sorts for a team looking to recreate the stable success of Kansas City.


https://arrowheadaddict.com/2020/12/...deal-new-team/

Interesting. So if that is the case Bienemy would be looking for a place with a HC and GM opening..
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JakeF 11:58 AM 12-19-2020
Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic:
Here is the complete draft history of Chiefs GM John Dorsey. It's littered with scrubs for the most part. If the player didn't grade out as a first day guy, Dorsey was pretty much clueless at identifying talent.

Building depth on your roster is done in the later rounds. Dorsey was very bad at building depth. I posit that any late round player that made an impact at all only did so because Reid was the head coach.

Eric Fisher - LT - 1st (Probably Reid)
Travis Kelce - TE - 3rd (Definitely Reid)
Knile Davis - RB - 3rd
Nico Johnson LB - 4th
Sander Commings - CB - 5th
Eric Kush - C - 6th
Braden Wilson - FB - 6th
Mike Catapano - DE - 7th

Dee Ford - DE - 1st
Philip Gaines - CB - 3rd
Dat - RB/WR - 4th
Andy Murray - QB - 5th
Zach Fulton - OL - 6th
LDT - OL - 6th

Marcus Peters - CB - 1st
Mitch Morse - OL - 2nd
Chris Conley - WR - 3rd
Steven Nelson - CB - 3rd
Ramik Wilson - LB - 4th
DJ Alexander - LB - 5th
James O'Shaugnessy - TE - 5th
Rakeem Nunez-Roches - DT - 6th
Da'Ron Brown - WR - 7th

Chris Jones - DT - 2nd
KeiVarae Russell - CB - 3rd
Parker Ehinger - OL - 4th
Eric Murray - CB - 4th
D-Rob - WR - 4th
Kevin Hogan - QB - 5th
Tyreek - WR - 5th
DJ White - CB - 6th
Dadi Nicolas - LB - 6th

Mahomes - QB - 1st (Bart Vatch & Reid)
TK - DE - 2nd
Kareem Hunt - RB - 3rd
Jehu Chesson - WR - 4th
Ukeme Eligwe - LB - 5th
Leon McQuay III - S - 6th


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Love how people pick and choose who's Dorsey and who's someone else. Of course the really good players must have been picked by someone other than Dorsey. smh
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-King- 12:02 PM 12-19-2020
Originally Posted by JakeF:
Love how people pick and choose who's Dorsey and who's someone else. Of course the really good players must have been picked by someone other than Dorsey. smh
Mental gymnastics.
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-King- 12:16 PM 12-19-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It's not a debate. Nobody is saying he's bad at evaluating talent.

The issue is that evaluating talent only 1/3 of a GENERAL Manager's job.

He was legitimately bad at the other 2/3.

How is THAT even a debate?
This is what I think. He's great at talent evaluation and getting players but he wants too much control and that will and has bitten him.

But yeah there are people trying to act like he's not a good drafter/evaluator. There are a few people in this very thread crediting others for his picks mostly based on it was a good pick or not. Somehow all his good picks are because of Reid, Veach, or whoever else was in Cleveland. I can understand Reid, but the whole "it was Veach/other scout on this pick!" thing makes no sense. As if it's not Dorseys job to listen to his scouts and then make a decision.
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Wilson8 01:14 PM 12-19-2020
A story on John Dorsey -

Originally Posted by :
Former Chiefs and Browns general manager John Dorsey has been “quietly” working for the Eagles over the past few months, reports Mike Garafolo of NFL Network (via Twitter). The 60-year-old has been serving as a consultant for general manager Howie Roseman.

According to Garafolo, the Eagles have been focused on strengthening their “talent evaluation,” especially following the departures of Joe Douglas (Jets) and Andrew Berry (Browns). Dorsey is thought of “extremely highly inside that building,” and he could potentially stick around for a full-time role in 2021.

Of course, Dorsey would probably prefer a GM gig, and there have been some rumblings that he could be a candidate for potential openings. Earlier this month, we heard that the Texans were planning to interview the executive for their GM vacancy.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...ant-for-eagles

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mkp785 01:18 PM 12-19-2020
Originally Posted by JakeF:
Love how people pick and choose who's Dorsey and who's someone else. Of course the really good players must have been picked by someone other than Dorsey. smh
It is pretty funny how the duds were all Dorsey and he had nothing to do with the hits. In reality it was a group effort most likely. Dorsey obviously had a hand in building this team.
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