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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Ben Shapiro: Even if climate change exists people can just sell their homes and move!
NJChiefsFan27 05:29 PM 06-01-2019

Wait for it. This is hilarious. #ClimateEmergency #BenShapiro pic.twitter.com/tiw7GOJsnv

— Mike Galsworthy (@mikegalsworthy) June 1, 2019


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chiefzilla1501 11:24 AM 07-08-2019
Originally Posted by patteeu:
“Insurance rates will skyrocket” = alarmism

You don’t have to tell or sell anything. It just happens naturally over time. It’s not like anyone is going to be caught off-guard suddenly by climate change. Don’t buy beachfront property unless you’re willing to assume the risk. Sell it, even at a discount to make it attractive, if you fear the worst. This isn’t a problem that requires emergency-levels of caring or response.
If you live in a flood zone, the rates will definitely go up. Trump has already done that through flood insurance if I'm not mistaken. They already are starting to make that adjustment. Insurance companies got annihilated the past few years. And it's not just beachfront properties. Farms are struggling big time with flooding and took huge hits on wildfires the past few years. A massive amount of catastrophes even outside of traditional catastrophe zones like hurricanes and tornados. Beachfront properties likely already have that risk priced in. But flood and cat zones will undoubtedly expand so many who bought a house outside those zones will suddenly find themselves zoned in.

And that's considering FEMA and crop insurance are already very expensive taxpayer funded programs. So we will pay for that too.
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patteeu 11:48 AM 07-08-2019
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
If you live in a flood zone, the rates will definitely go up. Trump has already done that through flood insurance if I'm not mistaken. They already are starting to make that adjustment. Insurance companies got annihilated the past few years. And it's not just beachfront properties. Farms are struggling big time with flooding and took huge hits on wildfires the past few years. A massive amount of catastrophes even outside of traditional catastrophe zones like hurricanes and tornados. Beachfront properties likely already have that risk priced in. But flood and cat zones will undoubtedly expand so many who bought a house outside those zones will suddenly find themselves zoned in.

And that's considering FEMA and crop insurance are already very expensive taxpayer funded programs. So we will pay for that too.
They aren’t skyrocketing. They are rising. Shapiro’s point is that this market activity will lead us to a new equilibrium over time rather than lead us to a catastrophic, short-term transition.
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vailpass 12:25 PM 07-08-2019
Any sightings of these millions of 'climate refugees' yet?

Side note: please pray california gets no more earthquakes OR if they do get hit by the big one that none of them will refugee their ass into Arizona. Thank you.
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chiefzilla1501 01:13 PM 07-08-2019
Originally Posted by patteeu:
They aren’t skyrocketing. They are rising. Shapiro’s point is that this market activity will lead us to a new equilibrium over time rather than lead us to a catastrophic, short-term transition.
I don't oppose what Shapiro said except that he undersells how how easily or painless that transition will occur, or how significant the impact will be and already is (its not alarming, but it's significant). I also would agree that overengineered public solutions aren't the answer either. But to address your point, rates are rising across the board. But again, many who weren't in cat zones that suddenly become cat zones will see significant rate impacts. And insurance is a pool of money and as long as federal government is this invested in things like flood and hail, when we have big cat losses, taxpayers are all indirectly paying for those losses until the market corrects itself.
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mlyonsd 05:05 PM 07-08-2019
Amazing watch people circle jerk around an issue that can't be controlled.
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Baby Lee 05:07 PM 07-12-2019
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan27:
None of what you laid out are solutions to climate change. They are at best one of many steps that we need to reduce CO2 levels to levels that are safe for the environment. At no point did I dismiss their usefulness in tackling the problem, it's just a question of how it is implemented within a global strategy to address the issue. It's absolutely delusional to think that a few innovative technologies are going to solve the threat of climate change without a broader policy shift, and yes, that involves government.



Wanting the government to interfere with the ability of multinational corporations to destroy the environment for profit is very different than wanting "lifestyle engineering". You're getting sloppy in your strawman attacks.
https://news.yahoo.com/aoc-chief-sta...124408358.html

Originally Posted by Saikat Chakrabarti:
“The interesting thing about the Green New Deal, is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all,” Chakrabarti said to Inslee’s climate director, Sam Ricketts, according to a Washington Post reporter who attended the meeting for a profile published Wednesday.

Do you guys think of it as a climate thing?” Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing,” he added.

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patteeu 05:15 PM 07-12-2019
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
https://news.yahoo.com/aoc-chief-sta...124408358.html
That's pretty on point.
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SuperBowl4 04:23 AM 07-13-2019
I wonder what Lord Monckton thinks of Ben Shapiro?
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HonestChieffan 06:02 AM 07-13-2019
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
Amazing watch people circle jerk around an issue that can't be controlled.

Lots of cash being salted away by promoters and sellers of cures.

If the problem cannot be proven, the cure cannot be disproven.
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Baby Lee 07:36 PM 07-23-2019
Here are some basics. They're quite basic depending on your perspective. But they are essential to assure that people are on the same page during discussions.

Not political in the least. If anything, the author assumes the crisis of climate change as given. But the content is an objective overview of the details of generation.


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chiefzilla1501 09:27 PM 07-23-2019
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Here are some basics. They're quite basic depending on your perspective. But they are essential to assure that people are on the same page during discussions.

Not political in the least. If anything, the author assumes the crisis of climate change as given. But the content is an objective overview of the details of generation.

Interesting post. Here's one that addresses how you can overcome some of those challenges.

https://www.vox.com/2015/6/19/880854...id-integration

I'm mostly with you. I like the idea of tackling efficient energy consumption above efficient energy production. That includes finding ways to cycle energy consumption outside of peak time. However, I also recognize that our grids are rapidly becoming outdated especially given the move to smart technology. So if we're going to fix it anyway and you can integrate alternative energy into the grid at a "somewhat reasonable" cost while managing production volatility, why not..... As long as we don't overengineer the solution, as some of the alarmists want to do.
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Merde Furieux 09:14 AM 08-19-2019
Temperatures in Paris hit 108.6 degrees. Desperate Frenchmen dived into the fountains of the City of Lights with their clothes on. Parisian authorities announced that they were deploying heat wave management plan orange, level three, which meant setting up foggers in public parks and distributing heat wave kits. The kits consist of leaflets telling people to go to libraries which have air conditioning.

France24, the country’s state-owned television network, advised people suffering from temperatures rising as high as 110 degrees to take cold showers and stick their feet in saucepans of cold water.

A 2003 heat wave killed 15,000 people in France. And, in response, the authorities have deployed Chalex, a database of vulnerable people who will get a call offering them cooling advice.

The advice consists of taking cold showers and sticking their feet in saucepans of cold water.

Desperate Frenchmen trying to get into any body of water they can have led to a 30% rise in drownings. The dozens of people dead are casualties of the environmentalist hatred of air conditioners.

Only 5% of French households have air conditioning. Even in response to the crisis, the authorities are only deploying temporary air conditioning to kindergartens.

The 2003 heat wave killed 7,000 people in Germany. And, today, only 3% of German households have air conditioning. Germany’s Ministry of the Environment refused to back air conditioning as a response to global warming.

Temperatures in Dusseldorf hit 105 degrees. Officials in Dusseldorf had recently rejected proposals to install air conditioning systems because they’re bad for the environment.

The climate action head at Germany’s Institute for Applied Ecology explained that air conditioning wouldn't work because there's not much wind during heat waves, and the country can't end reliance on coal and run air conditioners at the same time. You can have air conditioners or save the planet.

But not both.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/274...iel-greenfield

Moonbattery Kills.
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Baby Lee 02:04 PM 08-21-2019
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Ponderous, . . . effing ponderous.
Leaves me with the conundrum of whether to go to the effort to lay out in layman's terms the various variables, or take the hint that some will not listen to science and reason.
Existence is energy dependent. Climate alarmists are obsessed with the notion of people having to move, or being overcome with shortages due to climate change. But they ignore the notion that people live longer and more comfortably than ever before because they have energy available to perform work and manage comfort.
But energy is an immediate commodity. You can store it with vast infrastructure. But then you EXPEND energy to store it and EXPEND energy to retrieve it from storage. Every time you transform energy from one form to another there are losses.
Renewables are intermittent, demand is constant.

So, in order to point in a more productive direction, I post some info on the work being done to increase EFFICIENCY. EFFICIENCY means that you need less energy to do the same work.

Climate control [the indoor/commercial/residential type, not global], is a major driver of energy demand. If you find a cheap, reasonable way to HALVE the energy demand of climate control, you put a substantial dent in emissions all around. This can work synergistically with other comprehensive developments, including renewables and storage improvements. Further, if you halve the energy consumption to achieve comfort, people can more readily AFFORD the rate of renewables for necessities.

But the response is, . . . too complicated, not enough government. . . MOAR regulations. Send climate taxes to goverment to redistribute. Fill the coffers, I'm sure nothing will be wasted there. Mandate renewables, so energy prices rise and people forego consumption ENDANGERING THEIR LIVES. Socialist solutions are the only solutions!!

Cheap available energy on demand is saving lives and improving the quality of life right now, but the lust for government control has you slavering for notions of the peril of rising oceans and melting ice caps, and how they might degrade the quality of life.

People within spitting distance of an ocean might have to scooch back a bit!!! Polar bears might go hungry!! Triple the price of heating and cooling a home. The human cost is worth it!!

More poor people are eating meat around the world. That means they will live longer, healthier lives, but it is bad news for the environmenthttps://t.co/CFpeTTFjC5 pic.twitter.com/W3NGBDxjPd

— The Economist (@TheEconomist) August 20, 2019


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Baby Lee 06:46 PM 08-22-2019
:-) - President Obama, passionate wealth spreader arounder and climate advocate, who did his darndest to reverse the rise in ocean levels by pure existence and leadership, buys a $15M estate with 30-odd acres of oceanfront property.
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vailpass 07:48 PM 08-22-2019
Millions of climate refugeeeeezzzzz!!!
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