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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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Titty Meat 10:39 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
funny people want to call a guy that came back just a couple of months after cancer to play in the NFL a pussy...

I don't have a Haglunds deformity, but a similar issue, and it's difficult for me to walk without pain some days.
You're talking to a group that has 10 inch internet cocks bruh
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SupDock 10:42 AM 10-17-2018
If the pain is that severe, why is there any expectation for him to play without surgery? That doesn't strike me as day to day.

Are they just waiting to try their luck deep in the season but not saying that's the case so teams have to game plan for EB?
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dirk digler 10:44 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
What difference does that make to the situation? Had they told you exactly what it was 6 weeks ago that changes what?

I was just pointing out they weren't fully truthful of what was going on.
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Sassy Squatch 10:46 AM 10-17-2018
"Day to day" with pain that's so severe he probably wouldn't be able to play if our season was actually on the line.
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dirk digler 10:50 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:
If it's going to require surgery, which it sounds like it might, then waiting is only going to cost him time next season. If he can't go this season, then put him on IR and get the surgery now, so that he's ready to go Week 1 of next season.

yep
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The Franchise 10:50 AM 10-17-2018
What I'm going to be pissed about is if this shit goes up until the end of the regular season.....and then they put him on IR for the surgery to try and shave down the bone spur. More missed time next season for Berry that he's getting paid handsomely for.
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dirk digler 10:51 AM 10-17-2018
Reid just said he is making progress but won't be practicing. Houston isn't practicing either. Morse is in the concussion protocol. Sorenson is coming back to practice and is doing good.
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Sassy Squatch 10:52 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Reid just said he is making progress but won't be practicing. Houston isn't practicing either. Morse is in the concussion protocol. Sorenson is coming back to practice and is doing good.
Who even cares anymore. Literally fucking worthless information until he's announcing that he's finally back on the practice field.
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The Franchise 10:56 AM 10-17-2018
He's making progress? Sure he is. What fucking progress is that exactly?

And can Sorensen even practice unless they bring him back off of IR?
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RunKC 10:58 AM 10-17-2018
Daniel Sorenson got injured, had surgery, went from Dirty Dan to Lieutenant Dan and will now come back and practice before Eric Berry.

What a time to be alive.
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The Franchise 10:59 AM 10-17-2018

Andy Reid says S Daniel Sorensen won’t start practicing this week but says “he’s close.”

— Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) October 17, 2018


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DJ's left nut 10:59 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:
What I'm going to be pissed about is if this shit goes up until the end of the regular season.....and then they put him on IR for the surgery to try and shave down the bone spur. More missed time next season for Berry that he's getting paid handsomely for.
He's not going to just medically retire. So he's going to try to limp along this year, play a game or two at the end of the season to see if 'pain management' works, it won't and then he'll have the surgery next year.

And we'll cut him the year after.

The contract is an unqualified disaster and it's very possibly what got Dorsey fired. The way this organization treated Dorsey's handling of that situation has always been chickenshit. The mere possibility of PR backlash (for what was an eminently sensible approach from Dorsey) led to Dorsey getting hurled under the bus.

The biggest mistake Dorsey ever made was not simply yanking Berry's franchise tag the moment he refused to report. That deal is going to go down as the worst in Chiefs history.
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ChiTown 11:01 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:


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The Franchise 11:01 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
He's not going to just medically retire. So he's going to try to limp along this year, play a game or two at the end of the season to see if 'pain management' works, it won't and then he'll have the surgery next year.

And we'll cut him the year after.

The contract is an unqualified disaster and it's very possibly what got Dorsey fired. The way this organization treated Dorsey's handling of that situation has always been chickenshit. The mere possibility of PR backlash (for what was an eminently sensible approach from Dorsey) led to Dorsey getting hurled under the bus.

The biggest mistake Dorsey ever made was not simply yanking Berry's franchise tag the moment he refused to report. That deal is going to go down as the worst in Chiefs history.
Fuck that. June 1st cut next season and get the fuck out from under his contract.
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patteeu 11:02 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:
He's making progress? Sure he is. What fucking progress is that exactly?

And can Sorensen even practice unless they bring him back off of IR?
He gets to start practicing after so many weeks (6, I guess?) and then the chiefs have 2 or 3 weeks to decide whether they want to activate him or put him down for the rest of the season.
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