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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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RealSNR 11:22 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It doesn't heal.

He has a bone spur on his heel that is rubbing on the Achilles. It's a pain management issue. It hurts and he doesn't want to play.
Then he should have gotten the surgery to make it not hurt.
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RunKC 11:23 PM 10-14-2018
We win this game with a healthy Houston and Berry.

This dude better be back ready when it matters..
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stevieray 11:25 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It doesn't heal.

He has a bone spur on his heel that is rubbing on the Achilles. It's a pain management issue. It hurts and he doesn't want to play.
so he's just spinning his wheels?


....why would anyone think this will change in the future?
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htismaqe 11:28 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by stevieray:
so he's just spinning his wheels?


....why would anyone think this will change in the future?
I certainly don't. I fully expect him to stand on the sidelines all season.

Tonight was the night he really needed to be on the field and he wasn't feeling it.
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ROYC75 11:28 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It doesn't heal.

He has a bone spur on his heel that is rubbing on the Achilles. It's a pain management issue. It hurts and he doesn't want to play.
I was told you can do surgery but the spurs come back. The recovery time usually allows the spur to form back up in most cases during recovery. Reason they have pretty much stopped all bone spur surgeries on feet and went to shoes that are fitted with padding for it.

You are correct they don't heal, I have bone spurs in my feet . Some players have played through them, it just depends on the pain level it is and if the player can fight through and bear the pain.
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stevieray 11:28 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I certainly don't. I fully expect him to stand on the sidelines all season.

Tonight was the night he really needed to be on the field and he wasn't feeling it.
:-)
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htismaqe 11:29 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by ROYC75:
I was told you can do surgery but the spurs come back. The recovery time usually allows the spur to form back up in most cases during recovery. Reason they have pretty much stopped all bone spur surgeries on feet and went to shoes that are fitted with padding for it.

Some players have played through them, it just depends on the pain level it is and if the player can fight through and bear the pain.
Yeah, he's not having surgery so that's not even really a discussion.

There's nothing at this point that waiting will do. It's not going to get better. He either plays through the pain or he doesn't.
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Coach 11:31 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Yeah, he's not having surgery so that's not even really a discussion.

There's nothing at this point that waiting will do. It's not going to get better. He either plays through the pain or he doesn't.
Yeah, at this point, I'm okay with releasing him after this season. Yes, the dead cap # is going to be huge, but it's just a drag, and that money can be better utilized on finding some players.

The Chiefs will have roughly $40 million left over in their 2019 Cap. I think they can stomach on eating his contract and moving on.
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The Franchise 11:31 PM 10-14-2018
And if he doesn’t want to play through the pain....then he can retire and give us cap space and a roster spot
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notorious 11:31 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Yeah, he's not having surgery so that's not even really a discussion.

There's nothing at this point that waiting will do. It's not going to get better. He either plays through the pain or he doesn't.
If he doesn't go in the playoffs my opinion of him will be about as low as it gets.
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ROYC75 11:32 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by stevieray:
so he's just spinning his wheels?


....why would anyone think this will change in the future?
It's iffy, if they do not find the right shoe to limit the pain, he could well be done.
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notorious 11:32 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:
And if he doesn’t want to play through the pain....then he can retire and give us cap space and a roster spot
He's going to suck that contract dry.
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htismaqe 11:32 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by notorious:
If he doesn't go in the playoffs my opinion of him will be about as low as it gets.
He's my 2nd favorite Chiefs ever.

Seeing him standing on the sidelines tonight was about all I can handle at this point. I'd just rather not see him suit up again. This game was winnable.
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New World Order 11:32 PM 10-14-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I certainly don't. I fully expect him to stand on the sidelines all season.

Tonight was the night he really needed to be on the field and he wasn't feeling it.
I want to die
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OKchiefs 11:33 PM 10-14-2018
The only reason the media pressure hasn't ramped up on Berry is because of his past with cancer. Any other player would be the subject of more scrutiny from the media.
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