Deshaun Watson is constantly getting praised as one of the best young QBs. Hell before the season people were saying he was 2nd best behind Mahomes. I'm here to tell you that he's not even in the top 10.
Deshaun Watson did have a bad GM in B.O.B, but he wasn't that bad as a coach. He always had the Texans respectable, but what he did to that franchise as a GM is senile. That doesn't mean he has to be the scape goat for every time Watson makes a mistake or can't close out a game. Watson was one of/if not the main reason for the playoff loss to the Chiefs. No elite QB is going to allow an opponent to run away with a game after being up 24-0. Another scape goat Watson has is his O line. He is terrible in the pocket and is the main reason for his high sack rate.
He has had success in his past seasons and it seems to me that a lot of that success was due to DeAndre Hopkins ability to catch everything that was anywhere close to him. He made that team so much better and was more important than Watson. Just look at this year what has happened in Houston. Hopkins got traded and the team literally fell apart and Watson has been absolute trash. Now how is he trash when he's on pace for 4800 yards and 34 TDs? He's a god damn garbage time all star, but he struts around like he's playing like an all pro and that his team is trash.
He has sucked shit in the 1st quarter all year and is one of the main reasons why his team is always playing from behind. In the 1st quarter of games this year he is
27/46, 58.7% comp, 285 yards, 1 TD, 13 1st down passes. That's in 7 fucking games! Almost half a season and he's managed 1 passing TD and a measly 285 yds in the first quarter. Compare that to his 4th quarter stats when he can just throw it against a prevent defense when his team is down double digits. 50/74, 67.5% comp, 685 yds, 7 TDs, 2 Ints. These numbers would be elite and he'd be considered clutch if they'd would have won more than one game.
This is the score of all of his games this year going into the 4th quarter and a little of what transpires
KC - 24 - 7
Balt - 23 - 10
Pit - 20 - 21
Houston was up, but Watson threw an int during an 8 play 42 yd drive at the beginning of the 4th quarter and Pitt capitalized and scored the go ahead TD right after that. Watson gets the ball back down a TD, but he takes one of his patented sacks and goes 3 and out and never sees the ball again. With how great he's been in the 4th quarter this year and how elite he is you'd expect more than 45 yds and an int in the 4th, but he choked the game away.
Min - 24 - 16
Deshaun had a chance to tie the game, but couldn't punch it in when they had the ball with around a minute left 2nd down and 1 yard to go from the Minnesota 1. David Johnson tries to run it in and gets stuffed. Then on 3rd down Watson is running an option and gets scared of a big hit, so he tosses it to David and David doesn't catch it, but he recovers the fumble and it's a 4 yard loss. 4th and 5 gives Watson a chance to redeem himself, but he thinks DeAndre Hopkins is out there running a route and will bail out his shitty overthrown fade route. Not DeAndre does his best, but he can't overcome Watson's shit ball.
Jax - Houston's only win!
Ten -
Deshaun tries really hard, but for some dumb shit reason the Texans go up 7 with 1:53 left in the game and Romeo oh Romeo says "Hey Mr Clutch, go out there and get us 2 points, so this game is over" and Deshaun replies "no probs Romeo O'Brien, I mean Bill, I got this", but Mr. Clutch ain't so clutch and two point conv fails. Ten scores a TD, makes XP, gets ball in OT and drives down for a win.
GB - 28 - 7, but Deshaun tears that prevent up in the 4th and racks up those garbage time numbers to the tune of 100 yards and a TD. 72 and the TD of those yards came in one drive when it really mattered down 35 to 14 with 3:40 left in the game a 2 minute drive to make it a 2 score game. Real nail biter.
Deshaun fucking sucks. He ain't shit. He got paid and will continually get talked as if he's some elite QB on a team devoid of talent because B.O.B fucked the franchise. Watson is gonna hit free agency in a few years and get another huge deal because it's not his fault the team never gets above 8-8 again. He will be shitting the bed in the first year of his next deal and everyone will be wondering why Bill O' Brien and his offensive line are still preventing him from winning a game.
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
Young aside, lot of folks here have a curious hate boner for watson.
It stems from people who insisted his arm was far too weak to ever succeed in the NFL. That narrative became a bit of a CP group think. Instead of just saying "I was wrong' it becomes a parade of excuses of why hes not as good as you think.
Hes a top 10 QB. It's silly to argue otherwise at this point. It's just doubling down on wrong.
Regardless, mahomes is top 1 of 1. Watson isnt a threat to his spot.
My hate boner for Watson stems from the "He just wins" treatment he got pre-draft. Yeah, I bitched on his arm, too, but I never said it wasn't good enough to play in the NFL. And before anybody brings up my comparison to Doug Flutie, was Doug Flutie not an NFL QB? Oh, he was? Cool.
If your argument for a college QB is "WINZ BIG GAMEZ!" then you deserve to draft a huge bust of a QB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Redbled:
CBS reported this morning that Watson went to ownership saying he’d be happy getting Bieniemy as his coach. If he and Dorsey do go there together we just discovered our main rivals for the next 15 years.
More like the next 2-3 years.
Because that's how long Dorsey will last before he pisses off too many people within the organization and gets his ass fired. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Redbled:
CBS reported this morning that Watson went to ownership saying he’d be happy getting Bieniemy as his coach. If he and Dorsey do go there together we just discovered our main rivals for the next 15 years.
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
My hate boner for Watson stems from the "He just wins" treatment he got pre-draft. Yeah, I bitched on his arm, too, but I never said it wasn't good enough to play in the NFL. And before anybody brings up my comparison to Doug Flutie, was Doug Flutie not an NFL QB? Oh, he was? Cool.
If your argument for a college QB is "WINZ BIG GAMEZ!" then you deserve to draft a huge bust of a QB.
You used a lot of extra words that mean the same thing as "I was wrong by leaps and bounds"
I was wrong about watson too, but I'm not desperately clinging to the idea his success is an illusion. Turns out hes pretty good. [Reply]
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
Young aside, lot of folks here have a curious hate boner for watson.
It stems from people who insisted his arm was far too weak to ever succeed in the NFL. That narrative became a bit of a CP group think. Instead of just saying "I was wrong' it becomes a parade of excuses of why hes not as good as you think.
Hes a top 10 QB. It's silly to argue otherwise at this point. It's just doubling down on wrong.
Regardless, mahomes is top 1 of 1. Watson isnt a threat to his spot.
Ah, OK, you're not talking about me then. I think Watson is really good and have said as much frequently.
I think a lot of it also has to do with Mahomes as well though. Posters here see Watson as a threat to Patty's dominance. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96: If true, that's a bombshell in the sports journalism world. 30 years ago that would get Bayless fired and blacklisted.
Damn it! Even with the thumbs separated, with my fat thumb I still accidentally hit thumbs down. 😞 Sry.
Let's hope this happens. Skip needs to go. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
You’re a buttfucking moron
It's not specifically his dominance, because their franchise is not ready to contend with us, but moreso his recognition. Lately it's shifted to Rodgers, Wilson, Lamar last year, etc but originally it was Watson people were comparing to Mahomes and lil chiefy didn't like that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Lzen:
Damn it! Even with the thumbs separated, with my fat thumb I still accidentally hit thumbs down. 😞 Sry.
Let's hope this happens. Skip needs to go.
No worries. I don't even know what thumb's up or down does for me.
However,
I doubt anything happens to Bayless. In this new world, journalistic integrity is not a thing. They don't even give it mouth service anymore in the news media, so I don't see anyone doing much more than raise a bit of an eyebrow over a sports story. [Reply]
Nope I definitely had no pre draft hate of Watson and would have been fine if we had drafted him. I don't pretend to be a college scout and very rarely have a negative opinion on a player coming out of college. I damn sure don't have a problem saying I'm wrong either and have admitted I was wrong on this site multiple times.
Watson just has never impressed me in the limited time I've watched him play. What I see is a guy that would throw far too many prayers and his demeanor last year after the Chiefs came back and destroyed his team was very eye opening. Instead of stopping the bleeding he curled up and cried, then he went to the bench to piss and moan.
This year he is one of the main reasons why that team is losing. Just a quick look of the drive summaries can show you a guy that isn't getting it done at the beginning of the game and then he is racking up yards and TDs when the game is completely out of reach. I don't even wanna hear about how his O line is bad and he isn't getting enough time. He's just not good in the pocket and is one of the main reasons for his high sack numbers. [Reply]