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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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Titty Meat 09:06 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
ERIC BERRY JUST JOINED THE NWO
Kevin Nash is the man!
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OnTheWarpath15 09:07 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
What does that tell you?
Tells me:

a.) it's not a heel issue

b.) the organization is hiding something

c.) all of the above

Unless we want to believe that a fucking bone spur is more debilitating than chemotherapy.
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dirk digler 09:07 PM 11-05-2018
In one of Mellinger’s articles yesterday after the game he wrote that the Chiefs are planning on Houston coming back this week and hopeful that Berry will play this month. I will be pleaseantly surprised if he starts practicing this week
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Bugeater 09:16 PM 11-05-2018
I'm hopeful I'll win the lottery this month.
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Frazod 09:16 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
I'm hopeful I'll win the lottery this month.
Can I have a Chevelle?
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Marcellus 09:18 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Tells me:

a.) it's not a heel issue

b.) the organization is hiding something

c.) all of the above

Unless we want to believe that a ****ing bone spur is more debilitating than chemotherapy.
Look I am fine with being wrong, all I need is for you to explain the motive for lying about it. What does it gain?
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DRM08 09:19 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Tells me:

a.) it's not a heel issue

b.) the organization is hiding something

c.) all of the above

Unless we want to believe that a ****ing bone spur is more debilitating than chemotherapy.
So I'm curious, what do you think the truth is?
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Bugeater 09:19 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Can I have a Chevelle?
Sure, now we all have something to be hopeful for!
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Marcellus 09:19 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Can I have a Chevelle?
What year you looking for whats your fav? I can talk about this all day I have owned 5 and its a better topic.
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Bugeater 09:21 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Look I am fine with being wrong, all I need is for you to explain the motive for lying about it. What does it gain?
It's been mentioned already, not looking foolish for throwing all that money at him for nothing.


Edit: Check that, this thread is now about Chevelles.
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Frazod 09:27 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
What year you looking for whats your fav? I can talk about this all day I have owned 5 and its a better topic.
1970, red with black stripes and black interior, automatic trans (don't want to deal with a friggin stick anymore). LS-6 or LS-5 would be preferable, but not a deal breaker.

And cowl induction. It may be gimmicky, but it's definitely bad ass.

Here you go:


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chinaski 09:28 PM 11-05-2018
I never even heard of a Haglund's Deformity until I read this thread. It almost sounds made up. Now, the guy in this thread that says he has one on his penis, THAT I do believe.
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Marcellus 09:29 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
It's been mentioned already, not looking foolish for throwing all that money at him for nothing.


Edit: Check that, this thread is now about Chevelles.
Chevelles =Good.

As far as Berry and $ nobody really cares about that shit outside of here. Most fans have zero idea what Berry makes and frankly it has made zero difference on this season. Everyone expected him to be ready and play including him.

What would you have done different? Not a ****ing thing.
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BryanBusby 09:33 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Kevin Nash is the man!
With the black and white or down with the wolfpac?
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Marcellus 09:33 PM 11-05-2018
Originally Posted by Frazod:
1970, red with black stripes and black interior, automatic trans (don't want to deal with a friggin stick anymore). LS-6 or LS-5 would be preferable, but not a deal breaker.

And cowl induction. It may be gimmicky, but it's definitely bad ass.
I had a 72' Red with Black Stripes. Loved the combo.

My fav would be a 1970 black with white stripes. LS6 with an auto probably.

The car that got me into cars was a 1970 SS white with black stripes wth an LS6 with a bigger cam and headers. My best friends cousin built it and I will never forget my first ride in that car. :-)
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