Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Pen sucked last year too and the year before and didn't make the playoffs in 2016 because of the shitty pen.
I don't know if that's entirely accurate. The 2016 pen had some rough spots and wasn't as good as previous years... and Soria was blah but that bullpen was complete light years ahead of this year. Soria would be the best pitcher in this current group.
Even with that, the 2016 pen at one point or another had Wade Davis, Herrera and Matt Strahm who was unhittable. Moylan, Flynn and Scott Alexander were solid too. Pretty much any of those 7 guys would be our best reliever on this team.
The biggest reason that team failed was because Moose and Cain both got hurt. Hard to win without two of your best players. Plus Volquez had a rough year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment:
I haven’t really thought about it, but is there a chance Gordon gets traded if the production stays hot?
I hope so. Whit becomes the new left fielder. Starling in center. Lee in right. Dozier / Gutierrez at 3rd. Mondesi at SS, Lopez at 2nd. O'Hearn / Dozier at 1st. Everyone rotates at DH. Soler, Hamilton, Gore, and Owings are gone by the trade dead line. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tk13:
I don't know if that's entirely accurate. The 2016 pen had some rough spots and wasn't as good as previous years... and Soria was blah but that bullpen was complete light years ahead of this year. Soria would be the best pitcher in this current group.
Even with that, the 2016 pen at one point or another had Wade Davis, Herrera and Matt Strahm who was unhittable. Moylan, Flynn and Scott Alexander were solid too. Pretty much any of those 7 guys would be our best reliever on this team.
The biggest reason that team failed was because Moose and Cain both got hurt. Hard to win without two of your best players. Plus Volquez had a rough year.
Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment:
I haven’t really thought about it, but is there a chance Gordon gets traded if the production stays hot?
I just don't see the return being worth it. Although, the contract year bounce might make Alex want another contract.... which i would not be in favor of, unless it were a team friendly one year deal or something. [Reply]
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Pen sucked last year too and the year before and didn't make the playoffs in 2016 because of the shitty pen.
They didn’t make the playoffs in 16 because of several factors. The pen wasn’t a huge one, and was secondary to:
1) injuries to Cain, Moustakas, and Gordon
2) the horrendous production from the #5 spot in the rotation. KC was something like 10-12 games under .500 on days that spot started
The pen was actually dynamic in August before fading in Sept.
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
That's scary. Dude got lucky a few times and is going to absolutely get raped in multiple trades.
You’re basing this on?
Moore’s track record in trades is pretty strong. Wade Davis for Jorge Soler being his only real bad move of a valuable asset. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DeepSouth:
I hope so. Whit becomes the new left fielder. Starling in center. Lee in right. Dozier / Gutierrez at 3rd. Mondesi at SS, Lopez at 2nd. O'Hearn / Dozier at 1st. Everyone rotates at DH. Soler, Hamilton, Gore, and Owings are gone by the trade dead line.
Why get rid of Soler?
Seems like he’d make a nice power-hitting DH. [Reply]
Good lord Gordon already has 8 HBPs. That puts him on pace for about 38 or 39 which would be the 2nd most in a single season. He needs to pick up his pace a bit if he wants 1st place. Ron Hunt had 50 in 1971 and here's an article to show you how absolutely insane that is https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...by-50-pitches/. [Reply]