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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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MahomesMagic 05:07 AM 07-18-2021
Long-term symptoms (>12 weeks) after #Covid19 infection in children were found to be very uncommon (& not sig diff than prevalence in negative controls) in this new @JAMA_current study.

https://t.co/ZiLUDjqOYz
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Chief Roundup 05:29 AM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by KCUnited:
Bolded does not compute.

The likes of you refers to people insinuating others who have done their part should still carry masks in their pockets for reasons not back by anything substantial. If you can't see the undercutting of the very message you feel so strongly about then that is on you.


10 to 15 % of vaccinated people with Pfizer, Moderna are getting the Delta variant. 25 to 40% with the J&J are contracting the Delta variant.
Healthcare workers that have been vaccinated, Pfizer and Moderna, where I work are testing positive at about a 20% rate.
Having been vaccinated does not stop a person from contracting the virus. It does lower that risk, it mainly drops the severity of the virus.
I have already had it once in February of last year. I have permanent damage to my lungs. I do not want it again.
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TwistedChief 05:50 AM 07-18-2021
A little wonkish but imo a spot-on read about what our covid-clouded future looks like:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...948903937.html
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Chief Roundup 06:36 AM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
A little wonkish but imo a spot-on read about what our covid-clouded future looks like:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...948903937.html
This may be accurate. The worst part is it might make people say fuck it and just get Covid even though as it changes they will get it again and again. And it could break all of the sterilizing immunities that we could ever make.
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Kiimo 10:33 AM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
25 to 40% with the J&J are contracting the Delta variant.
where are you seeing that
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TLO 10:35 AM 07-18-2021
Thought maybe our hospitalizations had hit their peak around here. Wrong.
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Chief Roundup 10:40 AM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
where are you seeing that
The hospital I work at emails us and posts this type of information all around the hospital.

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Chief Roundup 10:42 AM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
where are you seeing that
Did you look at CDC? They told everyone there that the J&J was only 66.3% effective.

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Kiimo 10:47 AM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Did you look at CDC? They told everyone there that the J&J was only 66.3% effective.

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It's a pretty big jump between "Did you look at CDC? They told everyone there that the J&J was only 66.3% effective."

and

"25 to 40% with the J&J are contracting the Delta variant."



As recently as yesterday they were reporting that J&J being particularly effective against the Delta Variant could create more demand for that vaccine
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NotDonger 11:00 AM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
10 to 15 % of vaccinated people with Pfizer, Moderna are getting the Delta variant. 25 to 40% with the J&J are contracting the Delta variant.
Healthcare workers that have been vaccinated, Pfizer and Moderna, where I work are testing positive at about a 20% rate.
Having been vaccinated does not stop a person from contracting the virus. It does lower that risk, it mainly drops the severity of the virus.
I have already had it once in February of last year. I have permanent damage to my lungs. I do not want it again.
I presume that you are saying that of the breakthrough cases, 10 to 15% of them have been vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines and 25 to 40% of them have been vaccinated with the J&J? But even if so, that still leaves considerable percentages unaccounted for.

If you are saying that 10 to 15% of the people fully vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines have become breakthrough cases (and 25 to 40% of the J&J), that can't be.

147,500,000 Americans have been fully vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines.

12,800,000 with J&J.
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Chief Roundup 11:34 AM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
It's a pretty big jump between "Did you look at CDC? They told everyone there that the J&J was only 66.3% effective."

and

"25 to 40% with the J&J are contracting the Delta variant."



As recently as yesterday they were reporting that J&J being particularly effective against the Delta Variant could create more demand for that vaccine
Well 66.3% leaves 33.7%. So I don't know what to tell you other than that is right in the middle. I am guessing that is where the range comes from.

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Chief Roundup 11:35 AM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by NotDonger:
I presume that you are saying that of the breakthrough cases, 10 to 15% of them have been vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines and 25 to 40% of them have been vaccinated with the J&J? But even if so, that still leaves considerable percentages unaccounted for.



If you are saying that 10 to 15% of the people fully vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines have become breakthrough cases (and 25 to 40% of the J&J), that can't be.



147,500,000 Americans have been fully vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines.



12,800,000 with J&J.
I listed the particular vaccines with the corresponding numbers that are being shown.

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Kiimo 11:39 AM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Well 66.3% leaves 33.7%. So I don't know what to tell you other than that is right in the middle. I am guessing that is where the range comes from.

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What you are failing to read is the difference between J&J's effectiveness from their clinical trials vs the effectiveness with the Deltra Variant.


If you think 25 to 40% of people who got the J&J vaccine have contracted the Delta Variant you are woefully misunderstanding
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Chief Roundup 12:17 PM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
What you are failing to read is the difference between J&J's effectiveness from their clinical trials vs the effectiveness with the Deltra Variant.


If you think 25 to 40% of people who got the J&J vaccine have contracted the Delta Variant you are woefully misunderstanding
I don't think you are understanding what I said or I didn't get the point across clearly enough.
Of the people that are getting Covid that have been vaccinated 25 to 40% of them have been vaccinated with the J&J.
That is almost a direct quote from the email that the hospital has sent out to all employees and medical staff.
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TwistedChief 12:57 PM 07-18-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
I don't think you are understanding what I said or I didn't get the point across clearly enough.
Of the people that are getting Covid that have been vaccinated 25 to 40% of them have been vaccinated with the J&J.
That is almost a direct quote from the email that the hospital has sent out to all employees and medical staff.
Yes, that makes sense. What you said before did not.
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