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Nzoner's Game Room>NFL likely banning hip-drop tackle
ghak99 11:53 AM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by philfree:
Seems like This will make it more difficult to tackle a ball carrier from behind and from a side angle as well.
Moar score. Moar bet. Moar money.

If the NFL can play the safety card while getting the above, they'll drive that square peg right through the round hole and you'll like it.
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kccrow 12:04 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by philfree:
Seems like this will make it more difficult to tackle a ball carrier from behind and from a side angle as well.
You guys are making a mountain out of something that isn't.

Each team runs roughly 1,050 plays, so about 33,600 for the year. According to NFL data, this tackle was used 230 times last season. That's less than 1% of all scrimmage plays.

Of those 230 uses, 15 resulted in injury of the player tackled. That's 6.5%.

So it isn't as often used as everyone thinks, it isn't necessary, and it results in a high injury rate.

Players need to take a better pursuit angle and tackle by wrapping up like they were taught.

Tell me how many times you remember this shitty tackle being used in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. It really wasn't. If you can get your hands on them enough to swing you body weight, you can get your hands on them enough to wrap up their legs and take them down without this form.
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philfree 12:30 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by kccrow:
You guys are making a mountain out of something that isn't.

Each team runs roughly 1,050 plays, so about 33,600 for the year. According to NFL data, this tackle was used 230 times last season. That's less than 1% of all scrimmage plays.

Of those 230 uses, 15 resulted in injury of the player tackled. That's 6.5%.

So it isn't as often used as everyone thinks, it isn't necessary, and it results in a high injury rate.

Players need to take a better pursuit angle and tackle by wrapping up like they were taught.

Tell me how many times you remember this shitty tackle being used in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. It really wasn't. If you can get your hands on them enough to swing you body weight, you can get your hands on them enough to wrap up their legs and take them down without this form.
My one little sentence is making a mountain?
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kccrow 12:38 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by philfree:
My one little sentence is making a mountain?
It's not you, per se, it's the overall of this thread. Your point was just another on the stack of shit. It's not getting harder, that's the fucking point.
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Bowser 05:05 PM 03-26-2024

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kccrow 05:35 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by Bowser:
This is clearly what the morons in this thread think will be called a penalty. No other explanation for the dumbassery.
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dlphg9 08:15 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by kccrow:
This is clearly what the morons in this thread think will be called a penalty. No other explanation for the dumbassery.
You clearly didn't watch the video the NFL released to show what will be penalized, because most of the examples were plain old football tackles.
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ChiefsLV 05:36 PM 03-26-2024
Whatever the fuck Arden Key did bunching up his legs so they purposely landed with full weight on Mahomes' leg in that Jags playoff game, that's the shit I want banned. We're lucky that injury wasn't worse.
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chiefzilla1501 05:49 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by Bowser:
He is using the ground, not the players legs, to make the tackle. I don’t think this is the type of tackle the league is focusing on.
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New World Order 06:07 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
He is using the ground, not the players legs, to make the tackle. I don’t think this is the type of tackle the league is focusing on.
This is going to be a nightmare
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PAChiefsGuy 06:11 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by New World Order:
This is going to be a nightmare
No it won't according to the kccrow, the data analytics genius. It's only used in 0.001% of tackles (yet leads to 7% of injuries).
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kccrow 06:18 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
No it won't according to the kccrow, the data analytics genius. It's only used in 0.001% of tackles (yet leads to 7% of injuries).
Learn to READ. It's from the ACTUAL NFL DATA you dumbass motherfucker. The NFL said it was used 230 times and resulted in 15 injuries in 2023. 230/(~1,050 scrimmage plays * 32 teams) = just under 1% of scrimmage plays. 15/230 = 6.5%. So it's used relatively little yet, when it is, yields a high injury rate.

So maybe your tiny little fucking brain can comprehend the fact that it 1) won't have as big of an impact on the game as you think it will (<1% of plays!) and 2) will reduce unnecessary injury.

I'm done arguing with incompetent fucks. My point is made.
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chiefzilla1501 06:49 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by New World Order:
This is going to be a nightmare
Remember any lousy targeting calls? It’ll be bumpy at first but players and coaches will learn to adapt, and I’m guessing the nfl will dial it back. A few blown calls is going to have way less of an impact than injuring a player who can’t play the entire second half.
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Pasta Little Brioni 07:24 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by New World Order:
This is going to be a nightmare
Exactly. Anyone that trusts NFL officials to get this right is an imbecile. That's literally my entire point. THIS WOULD BE GREAT IF NFL OFFICIATING WAS ANYTHING BUT AN ABOMINATION. This is not arguable.
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PAChiefsGuy 08:04 PM 03-26-2024
Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni:
Exactly. Anyone that trusts NFL officials to get this right is an imbecile. That's literally my entire point. THIS WOULD BE GREAT IF NFL OFFICIATING WAS ANYTHING BUT AN ABOMINATION. This is not arguable.
Well said.

Just look at all the flags and fines for defenders who are in the middle of trying to get a sack, with no way of realistically stopping, and then they hit the QB 0.1 second after he throws the ball. Result - get a BS flag/fine. Refs can't even get late hits right and you expect me to have faith that they will get this right?
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