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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Do you believe that rigging the election put Biden over the top?
NinerDoug 11:38 AM 11-18-2020
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...?ocid=msedgntp

Poll coming.
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Prison Bitch 01:17 PM 11-18-2020
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
Maybe.

But Trump could have run a different campaign against Bernie or Warren.

Could have come out differently, given the slim margins in states that won it for Biden.

Or maybe Biden beat a lot of very diff people and serves some credit for it.
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eDave 01:33 PM 11-18-2020
Originally Posted by loochy:
42
That's racist!
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lawrenceRaider 01:33 PM 11-18-2020
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
This myth has already been debunked.

Trump ran 1-pt behind Pube House candidates.
1 pt is all it takes in states that were decided by a percent or less.

Geez, math is hard, huh?
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Baby Lee 01:37 PM 11-18-2020
Thinking it and proving it are two different animals altogether.
What's more concerning is the complete lack of interest from the currently satisfied side.
This is one election, driven by unprecedented passions. Things will be different going forward, and you're as likely to find yourself on the dissatisfied side as satisfied in future contests.
It's very troubling that there is a strong correlation between how hastily constructed and/or dependent on technology a system is, and how much it differed from longstanding transparent systems like day-of in-person voting.
And you can pshaw, or handwave, but that 'troubling' sense is going to linger for a lot of people unless meaningful steps are made to reinforce and institute measures to move back to reliable and transparent procedures.
If elections become 'something that gets decided by a computer in some warehouse somewhere' instead of a valid and accurate reflection of the will of the participants, that's going to erode confidence measurably and enduringly.
And circling back to the blase and dismissive attitude of the currently satisfied side, this also rings hollow because they have largely been making the same arguments they now find ridiculous repeatedly and passionately in the past, which indicates that they are more satisfied in the result than they are satisfied in the accuracy and validity.
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Prison Bitch 01:37 PM 11-18-2020
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
1 pt is all it takes in states that were decided by a percent or less.

Geez, math is hard, huh?
Sure, if you can show me which states that dynamic held.

Gee, evidence is hard, huh?
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Marcellus 01:44 PM 11-18-2020

Bush stole the election.
Bush did 9/11.
Bush lied about WMD.
Diebold stole the election for Bush.
Trump is a Russian agent.
Kavanaugh is a rapist.
Violent riots are peaceful.
All Republicans are Nazis.

Trump: I think Democrats cheated.
Media: THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED.

Get bent.

— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) November 18, 2020

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lawrenceRaider 01:46 PM 11-18-2020
Originally Posted by Graystoke:
In my opinion voters came out in droves not for Biden but against Trump.
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
Trump was the motivator. This isn't difficult to see, if you pay attention.
Trump was definitely the motivator. He had what, 7 million more people vote for him this time out than voted for Hillary last time?
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lawrenceRaider 01:49 PM 11-18-2020
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Sure, if you can show me which states that dynamic held.

Gee, evidence is hard, huh?
It is extremely hard to prove a negative.

Considering your hatred for Trump, why are you having such a hard time with this?
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dlphg9 01:51 PM 11-18-2020
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Thinking it and proving it are two different animals altogether.
What's more concerning is the complete lack of interest from the currently satisfied side.
This is one election, driven by unprecedented passions. Things will be different going forward, and you're as likely to find yourself on the dissatisfied side as satisfied in future contests.
It's very troubling that there is a strong correlation between how hastily constructed and/or dependent on technology a system is, and how much it differed from longstanding transparent systems like day-of in-person voting.
And you can pshaw, or handwave, but that 'troubling' sense is going to linger for a lot of people unless meaningful steps are made to reinforce and institute measures to move back to reliable and transparent procedures.
If elections become 'something that gets decided by a computer in some warehouse somewhere' instead of a valid and accurate reflection of the will of the participants, that's going to erode confidence measurably and enduringly.
And circling back to the blase and dismissive attitude of the currently satisfied side, this also rings hollow because they have largely been making the same arguments they now find ridiculous repeatedly and passionately in the past, which indicates that they are more satisfied in the result than they are satisfied in the accuracy and validity.
Good God you're a blowhard
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eDave 01:51 PM 11-18-2020
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Considering your hatred for Trump, why are you having such a hard time with this?
Hates Libshits more.
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Baby Lee 01:54 PM 11-18-2020
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Good God you're a blowhard
Good God you're a simpleton.
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lawrenceRaider 02:02 PM 11-18-2020
Isn't it just as likely that Trump's baseless claims about mail in voting cost him votes from his own supporters who couldn't make it in to vote in person?

https://news.yahoo.com/georgias-repu...201700485.html
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KC_Connection 02:04 PM 11-18-2020
The fact that 1/3 of this poll so far is believing in the baseless rantings and ravings of an obviously sore loser (who has attempted this exact tactic before when he was losing/feared losing an election) says a lot about the state of politics in this country. It also probably says a lot about the state of the education system too.

Further, I still have yet to hear a legitimate reason why the Democrats would have rigged an election without actually acquiring the power of the Senate (which obviously renders said rigging to be completely ineffective for the purposes of acquiring power). But I guess baseless conspiracy theories don't have to make sense, now do they?
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Pants 02:07 PM 11-18-2020
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
The fact that 1/3 of this poll so far is believing in the baseless rantings and ravings of an obviously sore loser (who has attempted this exact tactic before when he was losing/feared losing an election) says a lot about the state of politics in this country. It also probably says a lot about the state of the education system too.

Further, I still have yet to hear a legitimate reason why the Democrats would have rigged an election without actually acquiring the power of the Senate (which obviously renders said rigging to be completely ineffective for the purposes of acquiring power). But I guess baseless conspiracy theories don't have to make sense, now do they?
Taco John gave a really good reason. Basically, the Dems had to rush the ballots to get them there on time. And it takes much longer to mark the other circles.

It was a pretty poorly-designed operation since they seemingly didn't have those fake ballots ready ahead of time.
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KC_Connection 02:08 PM 11-18-2020
Originally Posted by Pants:
Taco John gave a really good reason. Basically, the Dems had to rush the ballots to get them there on time. And it takes much longer to mark the other circles.
Ah they had to rush them. The Democrats sound just terrible at this rigging thing.
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