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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Mock (11/12)
Direckshun 09:14 AM 11-12-2020
Assumptions:

1. The Chiefs repeat as Super Bowl champions. HC Andy Reid and GM Brett Veach are retained.

2. OC Eric Bienemy is hired by your mom's favorite team, and the Chiefs earn a 3rd compensatory round pick in 2021 and 2022.

3. The 2021 salary cap remains he same roughly $200m it was in 2020.

4. OT Mitchell Schwartz retires.

5. The Chiefs extend OT Eric Fisher (4 years, $45m), S Tyrann Mathieu (4 years, $58m).

6. The Chiefs tender RB Darrel Williams, WR Byron Pringle, TE Deon Yelder, OG Andrew Wylie, ILB Ben Niemann, CB Charvarius Ward.

7. The Chiefs re-sign WR Demarcus Robinson (1 year, $3m), DE Taco Charlton (1 year, $2m), S Dan Sorensen (2 years, $8m).

8. The Chiefs re-sign to a minimal deals FB Anthony Sherman, WR Demarcus Robinson, WR Marcus Kemp, OL Mike Remmers, C Daniel Kilgore, CB Antonio Hamilton.

9. The Chiefs let walk QB Matt Moore, RB Le'Veon Bell, WR Sammy Watkins, WR Gehrig Deiter, TE Nick Keizer, TE Ricky Seals-Jones, OG Kelechi Osemele, OG Danny Isidora, OG Bryan Witzmann, C Austin Reiter, DT Mike Pennel, DT Braxton Hoyett, DE Alex Okafor, DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, OLB Damien Wilson, CB Bashaud Breeland, CB Alex Brown, S Tedric Thompson.

10. The Chiefs sign no notable free agents.

11. The Chiefs net two compensatory picks, a 4th (Fuller) and a 5th (Ogbah). They are picking 32nd.

The draft:

1. DE Jaysen Oweh, Penn State
2. OLB Jabril Cox, LSU
3. CB Chase Lucas, Arizona State
3 (Bienemy). WR Anthony Schwartz, Auburn
4. DT Glen Logan, LSU
4 (Fuller). OG Jack Anderson, Texas Tech
5. OLB Amen Ogbongbemiga, Oklahoma State
5 (Ogbah). TE Charlie Kolar, Iowa State
6. C James Patterson, Notre Dame

QB: Mahomes, Henne
RB: Edwards-Helaire, Williams, Williams, Thompson
FB: Sherman

WR: Hill, Hardman, Robinson, Pringle, Schwartz, Kemp
TE: Kelce, Yelder, Kolar

LT: Fisher, Remmers
LG: Allegretti, Wylie
C: Kilgore, Patterson
RG: Duvarney-Tardif, Rankin, Anderson
RT: Niang, Remmers, Durant

DE: Clark, Charlton
DT: Jones, Wharton
DT: Nnadi, Logan, Saunders
DE: Oweh, Danna,

OLB: Gay, O'Daniel
ILB: Hitchens, Niemann
OLB: Cox, Ogbongbemiga

CB: Sneed, Ward, Fenton, Lucas, Hamilton, Keyes
S: Mathieu, Thornhill, Sorensen, Watts

K: Butker
P: Townsend
LS: Winchester
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Hoover 11:18 AM 11-12-2020
What in the fuck?

I mean for the love of God, you have to draft some offensive linemen. Waiting until he end of the 4th is too risky.
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OKchiefs 12:21 PM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by Hoover:
What in the ****?

I mean for the love of God, you have to draft some offensive linemen. Waiting until he end of the 4th is too risky.
I tend to agree. As much as I've bitched about cornerback recently, I think we can probably wait a bit to draft one. IMO we'll be fine losing Breeland, just need more depth. We need someone to compete from day 1 on the OL.

Also would prefer to go younger at safety over keeping Sorensen, but not the end of the world I suppose.
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Direckshun 12:53 PM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by Hoover:
What in the ****?

I mean for the love of God, you have to draft some offensive linemen. Waiting until he end of the 4th is too risky.
The way I look at it, we could probably jump on OL early if a center we love is there.

Otherwise, we're pretty much set along the starting line everywhere but center.

LDT is our RG, no question. Fisher our LT. Allegretti should be in line to get another year at LG. A big question, of course, is how Niang is coming along. And Kilgore is serviceable.

The team loves Remmers' ability to play all 4 positions, and in this hypothetical, they bring him back. Durant is showing promising early returns at RT. And we know they like Wylie and Rankin.

I'm assuming right now that Niang is a good RT. If that's the case, we definitely need depth at guard and maybe a starting center.

Meanwhile, I disagree with you guys: I think we're starving at several positions: DE, CB, OLB, and probably WR with Watkins departing.

I'd like to see us bring Breeland and Watkins back but I don't think we can wave a magic wand with them two years in a row.
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Hoover 01:49 PM 11-12-2020
LDT is our RG for 2021 then he's gone. There is no way I'd extend him or sign him to another contract. The draft I about the long term, and while I think you are wise in signing Fisher to an extension, there is nothing but uncertainty at the other four positions if Schwartz retires.

Left guard has been a turnstile. Center is nothing to write home about. Allegretti and Niang are still question marks. I think you have to look at offensive linemen high in the draft, I get not spending a 1st rounder on one, but you better be spending a 2nd or 3rd on the position.

The Chiefs are not spending much at all in the o-line, so we better be investing in it through the draft. Besides Fisher we have nothing invested. It would be wise to invest some draft capital to protect Mahomes and allow us to run the ball better between the tackles.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...2022/full-cap/
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RunKC 03:41 PM 11-12-2020
Yeah. I think were drafting an OL early. The IOL is made up of JAGs and our OTs are starting to get long in the tooth.
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Tribal Warfare 07:25 PM 11-12-2020
Add a power RB like Spencer Brown to compete with Darrel Williams and Thompson
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gonefishin53 09:32 AM 11-13-2020
OC Josh Myers, Ohio St., with our 1st round pick would solidify the interior OL immensely, imo.
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Dante84 10:55 AM 11-13-2020
Wait - why would Schwartz retire? Is his back that fucked up?
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Direckshun 11:16 AM 11-13-2020
I completely understand everybody's reticence to wait in the draft to go OL.

But what position are you willing to shortchange in order to do it?

We have no top tier passrush on the edge outside of Clark. We have no real talent at LB unless Gay develops (which I assume he will), and our CB corps will take a step back if/when Breeland moves on.

At the same time, I'm not sure we can retain Watkins and that leaves us Hardman as the #2.
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gonefishin53 12:03 PM 11-13-2020
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I completely understand everybody's reticence to wait in the draft to go OL.

But what position are you willing to shortchange in order to do it?

We have no top tier passrush on the edge outside of Clark. We have no real talent at LB unless Gay develops (which I assume he will), and our CB corps will take a step back if/when Breeland moves on.

At the same time, I'm not sure we can retain Watkins and that leaves us Hardman as the #2.
Protecting Mahomes is critical to the teams success. The Chief's have not used draft capitol to replace Mitch Morse as they did replacing Rodney Hudson and it shows. Josh Myers, Ohio St. OC, with the Chief's first pick would solidify the Chief's interior OL, imo.
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OKchiefs 12:18 PM 11-13-2020
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I completely understand everybody's reticence to wait in the draft to go OL.

But what position are you willing to shortchange in order to do it?

We have no top tier passrush on the edge outside of Clark. We have no real talent at LB unless Gay develops (which I assume he will), and our CB corps will take a step back if/when Breeland moves on.

At the same time, I'm not sure we can retain Watkins and that leaves us Hardman as the #2.
Why would our cornerback group take a step back? We have Ward, Fenton, Sneed, and Keyes. We did fine the first month without him. If anything I'd suggest they sign a veteran to an affordable deal and maybe use another 4th at cornerback for competition.
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Direckshun 12:44 PM 11-13-2020
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Why would our cornerback group take a step back? We have Ward, Fenton, Sneed, and Keyes. We did fine the first month without him. If anything I'd suggest they sign a veteran to an affordable deal and maybe use another 4th at cornerback for competition.
I really like Sneed and I think Fenton is a gamer.

We got away with murder having Ward as a starter in the playoffs last year, though, and early returns this year are that he's regressed a bit.

The coaching staff knows best, and I defer to them. I'm just reading the tea leaves.
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DaneMcCloud 03:01 PM 11-13-2020
$5 million for Robinson?

Re-signing Remmers? :-)

It also appears that you've cut most of the offensive lineman and defensive lineman. How are the Chiefs going to field a defensive line next year with "no notable signing"?

The Chiefs would win around 7 games with this "plan".

:-)
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Hog's Gone Fishin 04:36 PM 11-13-2020
Love this draft! But we gotta keep our DL intact.


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