Originally Posted by candyman:
I'm not arguing with anything you posted, you are clearly more knowledgeable about stuff like this than just about anyone here but that part does not help your argument. Chemo and radiation have been used in oncology therapy for years as well, neither are perfectly safe.
I didn't say they were, but oncovaccines are remarkably safe. [Reply]
The information people have to work with is pretty ****ed up.
Are the long term effects of the virus itself known? No, because it hasn't been around long enough for there to be a period of time that would constitute "long term." The similarities of it to MERS and SARS1 suggests there will be long term effects to some, but not all, of the people who contract SARS2. SARS2's effects positively correlate with age. I'm not at the age where getting royally fucked by SARS is at its maximum probability.
In the short term whatever vaccines have been developed thus far meet the criteria but nobody also knows the long term effects of any specific SARS2 vaccination.
Better the devil you know than the angel you don't, IMO. [Reply]
Originally Posted by candyman:
Not true. I'm not an anti-vaxxer at all, I just dont need a vaccine for a virus with a 99+% survival rate. If some horrible plague happened with a much lower survival rate I'd damn sure be camping out in line for that vaccine.
YOU may believe you don't.
The people you interact with in society DO. Same thing with every other vaccination that's out there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I wouldn't be surprised if concerts and sporting events do it too. Ticketmaster is building out the framework for it (though they aren't technically the ones who decide on whether to do it or not - that's up to the event organizers).
"Click YES to grant Ticketmaster access to your medical records." [Reply]
I got the covid (mild case I’m fine) 6 weeks ago. And after talking with many health professionals, the only thing that they’re sure about is that masks and social distancing prevent it. I hammered two doctors with questions and I got different answers. Nobody really knows anything about this virus or the different strains. I’m fine, a guy I know who was in his 30’s (good shape) got it last Monday and by Friday he was dead. Will there be different vaccines for the type of covid you plan on getting? [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
YOU may believe you don't.
The people you interact with in society DO. Same thing with every other vaccination that's out there.
I wash and sanitize my hands PROFUSELY, probably excessively. I have no choice but to wear a mask everywhere I go. Even with a mask on if I have to cough/sneeze I turn my head and do it in my elbow out of habit. The people I interact with in society are at no risk from me, vaccine or not. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 2112:
I got the covid (mild case I’m fine) 6 weeks ago. And after talking with many health professionals, the only thing that they’re sure about is that masks and social distancing prevent it. I hammered two doctors with questions and I got different answers. Nobody really knows anything about this virus or the different strains. I’m fine, a guy I know who was in his 30’s (good shape) got it last Monday and by Friday he was dead. Will there be different vaccines for the type of covid you plan on getting?
Thus far, the evidence suggests that the vaccines that have been developed will be sufficient for all of the types of mutations we've seen. It would have to behave in a very different way than similar coronaviruses we've seen in the past for that to change. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
"Click YES to grant Ticketmaster access to your medical records."
Technically you'd be granting access to CLEAR (which has been doing similar stuff for employers for a long time now). Ticketmaster would just tap into it for that one data check. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
My naive understanding is that they could deploy different vaccines for different use cases. Pfizer goes to major cities where they have the equipment to store it. Moderna goes to smaller towns where they don't have the crazy cold stuff but they probably have a freezer that can get it down low enough to work. Oxford goes to everyone else.
That's oversimplified, but it's the kind of stuff they'll be working through.
yes, mostly concerned about it being properly cold stored thru out the supply chain [Reply]
