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Nzoner's Game Room>It’s official: Pats were always Tom Brady. Not Bill Belichick.
Prison Bitch 07:50 PM 10-25-2020
Bill falls to 2-4 without Brady.

Brady goes to 5-2 with Tampa, turning them into a title contender immediately.

Tampa had the #1 SRS (points above avg team) in the NFL of +13.1. And that was before they trashed the Fighting Chuckies today.
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htismaqe 07:51 PM 10-25-2020
The NFL revolves around QB's. It's pretty easy to see.
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FloridaMan88 07:53 PM 10-25-2020
Belichick is a career sub .500 HC without Brady.

The “Faketriots Way” bullshit has been confirmed as nothing more than winning with a HOF QB (nothing unique about that).

And all of the Faketriots “fans” who posted shit on this board... including Assnorix have been exposed as bandwagoning frauds and have vanished.
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Prison Bitch 07:54 PM 10-25-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Belichick is a career sub .500 HC without Brady.

The “Faketriots Way” bullshit has been confirmed as nothing more than winning with a HOF QB (nothing unique about that).

And all of the Faketriots “fans” who posted shit on this board... including Assnorix have been exposed as bandwagoning frauds and have vanished.


This. And allll this^
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CarlosCarson27 07:53 PM 10-25-2020
Oh, shut, up....
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Halfcan 07:53 PM 10-25-2020
Games are harder for the Pats without their weekly tapes of practices of their next opponent.
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PHOG 07:57 PM 10-25-2020
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Games are harder for the Pats without their weekly tapes of practices of their next opponent.
Maybe Brady's actually the guilty orchestrator of the cheating. :-)

Should the league be watching the Bucs film crew now? Hmmm?
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St. Patty's Fire 07:54 PM 10-25-2020
Yes it’s official after six games

If the Pats are bad for Three years straight maybe the arguments can begin.

It’s not like Brady went to a shit team with no talent and they’re all of the sudden good. Bucs have had talent but Winston is volatile. Did we forget that like half the Pats D opted out?
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NWTF 08:09 PM 10-25-2020
As of today it looks like Brady. Tampa has a pretty well rounded team overall.

Also BB took a significant downgrade at QB.
Newton is a huge downgrade. If he cant get me 100+ yds moving the chains on the ground hes useless at QB for me.
At one point mid 2nd qtr or later he was 3-6, 30 yards, 1 INT.
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Rasputin 08:09 PM 10-25-2020
Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire:
Yes it’s official after six games

If the Pats are bad for Three years straight maybe the arguments can begin.

It’s not like Brady went to a shit team with no talent and they’re all of the sudden good. Bucs have had talent but Winston is volatile. Did we forget that like half the Pats D opted out?


Yeah like Hightower and I'd say I'm glad he opted out but this is not a typical year to draw conclusions. I'd say Hightower is the bigger loss to the Patriots than Tom Brady and teams didn't get their offseason sessions in that would have been paramount for players going to new teams.

Fuck Patriots and fuck Tom Brady I hope they both lose outright.
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Red Dawg 07:56 PM 10-25-2020
Brady is a very good QB but he is not so great he was the driving force for the 6 wins. Bill was and cheating was fin early 2000's. Brady get far too much credit for those.
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Chieftain 07:57 PM 10-25-2020
Brady would not have the success he's had without Belichik. Similarly, Belichik would not have the success he's had without Brady. It was a perfect marriage. Genius defensive coach + clutch playoff QB. Maybe that's the formula we should follow when Andy retires. Hire the best defensive mind available and get a competent OC to script plays for Pat.
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Prison Bitch 08:00 PM 10-25-2020
Originally Posted by Chieftain:
Brady would not have the success he's had without Belichik. .
Oh bullshit.
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CarlosCarson27 08:02 PM 10-25-2020
If this were a real issue. It's a stupid argument. Jocks can't do weekly game plans or know what to look for globally- game prep wise. They do what they're told.
Put brady on the jets, see how good he is.
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Eureka 12:20 PM 10-26-2020
Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88:
If this were a real issue. It's a stupid argument. Jocks can't do weekly game plans or know what to look for globally- game prep wise. They do what they're told.
Put brady on the jets, see how good he is.
Something could be said that players elevate their game when they play with a player like Brady. He's old enough that most of the other players were kids when he was winning SB.

Sam Darnold calls out a player to do something vs Brady is just different then the rest. Brady will carry much more weight/respect from other players. I think this would leave to an offense performing much better. The Jets would be a much better team with Brady.
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