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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's talk about the Ravens.
Direckshun 12:34 AM 12-03-2018
The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season.

They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown.

Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style.

But that might change. He may see the field.

Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim.

We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does.

The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past.

As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game.

The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT.

But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative.

As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks.

#1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game).
#1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game).

I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here.

The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount.

Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well.

The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage.

In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD.

They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games.

Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons
Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers

That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point.

How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do.

What is going on?
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carcosa 12:00 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
Agreed. Jackson will go by the wayside as well either in injury or ineptness if he chooses not to be a student of the game.

Vick(early years),V Young,RG III,Kapernick, Newton,T Pryor.....running QBs etc.... have all refused to be a student of the game and it definitely has shown and is currently in the process of being shown as we speak(Newton).

I'll cut Vick some slack though that when he joined Reid in Philly his game got much better because he embraced the intellectual side of the game.
Huh, my dogs just started barking like they heard something, but I didn't hear anything......
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Frazod 12:02 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by scho63:
But you do remember what Harbaugh did as a QB to us right? :-)
Yeah, he managed to put up 10 whole points. I don't blame him for Boner or the One Who Shall Remain Nameless.
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carcosa 12:05 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by scho63:
But you do remember what Harbaugh did as a QB to us right? :-)
Wrong Harbaugh
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TLO 12:07 PM 12-08-2018
I haven't been this nervous about a game since the the Patriots and Rams game earlier this season.

Not to say that the Ravens are even close to as good as those teams, but this game still makes me quite nervous.
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St. Patty's Fire 12:09 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by TLO:
I haven't been this nervous about a game since the the Patriots and Rams game earlier this season.

Not to say that the Ravens are even close to as good as those teams, but this game still makes me quite nervous.
Not really that nervous at all honestly

Probably because Lamar Jackson winning at Areowhead against Mahomes seems unlikely
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TLO 12:11 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by JohnDONsey:
Not really that nervous at all honestly

Probably because Lamar Jackson winning at Areowhead against Mahomes seems unlikely
Lamar Jackson's unorthodox playing style is exactly the type of shit that terrifies me.
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St. Patty's Fire 12:13 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by TLO:
Lamar Jackson's unorthodox playing style is exactly the type of shit that terrifies me.
Dude can’t throw

That doesn’t terrify me at all when we have the best
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Hammock Parties 12:15 PM 12-08-2018
I'll say the same thing I said before the Cardinals game.

Sutton eats rookie QBs for breakfast.

Jackson isn't going to do shit.

During the Reid/Sutton era, the Chiefs have done the following against rookie QBs:
- 8-1 record
- 19.3 PPG allowed
- 77.0 passer rating allowed
- 1.6 TD/G
- 1 INT/G

Not a good sign for the Ravens if they start their rookie QB, Lamar Jackson.

— Gary McKenzie (@Super_G_Chiefs) December 8, 2018


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Reerun_KC 12:16 PM 12-08-2018
Whoes the 1 L against?
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Hammock Parties 12:35 PM 12-08-2018
Carr
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pugsnotdrugs19 12:48 PM 12-08-2018
I think we need to really establish a ground game in this one. Can’t let their DBs sit back and read the QB all day.
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Chiefshrink 01:06 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by carcosa:
but I didn't hear anything......
You never do. Who was the dumbass again i.e. to KB signing and the lingering Watkins injury ?:-)
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Hammock Parties 01:07 PM 12-08-2018

Weird stat: during the regular season the Chiefs are 14-0 during the Reid/Sutton era when the opposing quarterback rushes for 30 or more yards.

— Gary McKenzie (@Super_G_Chiefs) December 8, 2018


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staylor26 01:07 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Carr
Who did absolutely nothing in that game.

So aside from a fluky TNF road game, undefeated.
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Hammock Parties 01:08 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Who did absolutely nothing in that game.

So aside from a fluky TNF road game, undefeated.
We should feel really good about tomorrow's game.

Andy Reid doesn't lose these kinds of games, period.
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