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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's talk about the Ravens.
Direckshun 12:34 AM 12-03-2018
The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season.

They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown.

Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style.

But that might change. He may see the field.

Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim.

We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does.

The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past.

As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game.

The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT.

But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative.

As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks.

#1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game).
#1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game).

I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here.

The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount.

Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well.

The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage.

In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD.

They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games.

Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons
Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers

That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point.

How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do.

What is going on?
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O.city 04:24 PM 12-05-2018
Ravens have a bunch of guys that didn't practice today.
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Marcellus 04:29 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Sutton is going to drop 8 and rush 3 and this place isn't going to know how to handle it.
Thats pretty much what we need to do to contain Jackson isn't it?
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htismaqe 04:32 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Thats pretty much what we need to do to contain Jackson isn't it?
Does it matter what we need to do? Bob has done the "right" thing before when matchups dictate and nobody cares, they still bitch and moan about it.
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Chiefs Moon 04:44 PM 12-05-2018
To stop the run: Speaks starts for Ford. Ford is the spy. O'Daniel covers one of the two TE's.
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Sassy Squatch 04:47 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by Dayze:
our defense on 1st down is mucho important this game (every game, really, but particularly this one).
which sort of is discouraging....because I believe we suck.
FTFY
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ThaVirus 04:48 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
This seems like the exact type of team that can create major problems for us.
Lol you could say that about half the league. Any given Sunday.

Originally Posted by ARROW2:
Stop the run, control Michael Bivins coming off the edge.
But what about Bell and Devoe?

Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Thats pretty much what we need to do to contain Jackson isn't it?
Probably a good idea. I'd like to see some creative blitzes thrown in though. The last thing we need is to let him get into a groove.
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KCDC 05:22 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by TinyEvel:
A team that scores 25 points a game with decent receivers will score about 38 against our D.

I know Ravens have been all over the place. If this was on the road I would say odds are we lose. After watching the lame Raiders score 33 on us while turning the ball over three times, it's hard to be super confident about this game.

I am so down on this Chiefs secondary and the linebackers... Our Offense will have to score 40+ each game through the rest of the season (and more than that during the playoffs) if we are going too get to the big game.
I agree. The D plays a bit better at home, so we need to win out to protect the #1 seed. Easier said than done with the Chargers coming to town and the trip to Seattle.
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FAX 05:31 PM 12-05-2018
I foresee the Chiefs putting up 45 ... maybe 48 points on these guys. I'm sick of people talking like we should be concerned about "the best defense in the NFL" du jour.

I'm not sure how we're going to stop that lanky-ass QB, though. It's like having Sammy Watkins as your quarterback. I'd hate to see our career-day defense show its ugly head again.

FAX
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Best22 05:36 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by FAX:
I foresee the Chiefs putting up 45 ... maybe 48 points on these guys. I'm sick of people talking like we should be concerned about "the best defense in the NFL" du jour.

I'm not sure how we're going to stop that lanky-ass QB, though. It's like having Sammy Watkins as your quarterback. I'd hate to see our career-day defense show its ugly head again.

FAX
Lamar is smaller than Watkins
Lamar is a bit better at passing though

Sad thing is he may not need to pass much. Defense needs to sac up
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RunKC 05:45 PM 12-05-2018
Lot of talent not practicing for the Ravens.

Not practicing: WR Michael Crabtree (NIR), CB Marlon Humphrey (groin), S Tony Jefferson (ankle), G Alex Lewis (shoulder), LB/DB Anthony Levine (ankle), S Eric Weddle (NIR), G Marshal Yanda (NIR), CB Tavon Young (groin)

Limited: QB Joe Flacco (right hip), T James Hurst (back)

— Baltimore Ravens (@Ravens) December 5, 2018

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Joshuabmayer 12-05-2018, 07:28 PM
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Red Dawg 07:32 PM 12-05-2018
Clear eyes full hearts can't lose!

Keep contain on Lamr and we win.
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smithandrew051 07:36 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by Best22:
Lamar is smaller than Watkins
Lamar is a bit better at passing though

Sad thing is he may not need to pass much. Defense needs to sac up
The Ravens remind me of Georgia Tech football back around 2010. Super athletic QB, but pretty much no passing game.

I get why people worry about our defense in this one, but the fact that the Ravens are extremely 1-dimensional helps big time.

We know the defense can’t stop the run, but let’s not forget that they typically need to prepare for a passing game too. I really hope we sell out against the run and just dare them to throw it. I’ll take my chances there.

Also, don’t rule out Jackson eventually getting shaken up. For a slimmer guy, they’re running him a lot. Those hits will add up eventually. There’s a reason we don’t see this very often.

At the end of the day, we have the better coach, better QB, and we’re at home.
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Naptown Chief 07:59 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
The Ravens remind me of Georgia Tech football back around 2010. Super athletic QB, but pretty much no passing game.

I get why people worry about our defense in this one, but the fact that the Ravens are extremely 1-dimensional helps big time.

We know the defense can’t stop the run, but let’s not forget that they typically need to prepare for a passing game too. I really hope we sell out against the run and just dare them to throw it. I’ll take my chances there.

Also, don’t rule out Jackson eventually getting shaken up. For a slimmer guy, they’re running him a lot. Those hits will add up eventually. There’s a reason we don’t see this very often.

At the end of the day, we have the better coach, better QB, and we’re at home.
YES!!!
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RaidersOftheCellar 08:59 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Lol you could say that about half the league. Any given Sunday.



But what about Bell and Devoe?



Probably a good idea. I'd like to see some creative blitzes thrown in though. The last thing we need is to let him get into a groove.
Half the league has the top defense and a Vick-wannabe QB?
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KChiefs1 08:59 PM 12-05-2018
Wager Talk TV

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