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Nzoner's Game Room>2018 STL Cardinals Thread
BigRedChief 05:51 PM 01-02-2018
Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

Edit:
Matheny fired 07/14/2018




Opening Day Roster
Spoiler!

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MarkDavis'Haircut 08:47 PM 06-12-2018
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Fowler -- if he is in the lineup Tuesday -- would step into the batter's box as one of the worst regularly-appearing hitters in the majors this season.

Of the league's 159 qualifying hitters, he ranks 157th in average (.173), 148th in on-base percentage (.276) and 157th in slugging percentage (.286).

The switch-hitter is now slashing .191/.287/.329 against righthanded pitching. Against southpaws, he's worse, slashing .091/.225/.091.
He is your version of Sean Rodriguez.
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Frazod 10:00 PM 06-12-2018
Originally Posted by Carr4MVP:
I hate baseball right now.
Seriously. And I've got to wonder, how many of these guys that are playing like shit right now are doing so because they've just checked out because of Matheny?
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BigRedChief 10:32 PM 06-12-2018
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Seriously. And I've got to wonder, how many of these guys that are playing like shit right now are doing so because they've just checked out because of Matheny?
I just hope that maybe this year is the last year. He’s got the 6th most managerial experience in the majors. Makes the same mistakes as year one. Took over Larussa’s team and got two free years. And it’s been a steady decline since 2015.
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Pasta Little Brioni 03:51 AM 06-13-2018
Turdy Pham has k'd 36 times in his last 119 ABs. Hit .195 in May and .227 over the last month.....pathetic
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BigRedChief 06:26 AM 06-13-2018
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Turdy Pham has k'd 36 times in his last 119 ABs. Hit .195 in May and .227 over the last month.....pathetic
When he goes into these prolonged slumps, we find out later that he needed a new prescription for his contacts despite saying his eyesight is fine.

I saw a stat on the broadcast that in the month of June Martinez and Ozuma are hitting .435. The rest of the team .180.

Fowler doesn't look any closer to being able to hit a ball than the first of the year. Bader leads the team in WAR and defensive runs saved. If you are really trying to win each game, Bader has to start. He falls off the cliff being exposed as a starter, then bench him. This isn't rocket science.
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scho63 07:31 AM 06-13-2018
Originally Posted by Carr4MVP:
He is your version of Sean Rodriguez.
and/or Gregory Polanco. :-)

Our team looks like they've already given up on the season. :-)
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jd1020 11:43 AM 06-13-2018
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Yeah, it really sucks that the Cards are getting more WAR from a cost-controlled Harrison Bader (1.0) than the Cubs are getting from Jason Heyward (0.9 WAR) at $23 million.
No different than saying the Cubs are getting more WAR out of any one of their cost controlled players. What's your point?
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'Hamas' Jenkins 07:15 AM 06-14-2018
Originally Posted by jd1020:
No different than saying the Cubs are getting more WAR out of any one of their cost controlled players. What's your point?
You're talking shit about Heyward's production when you're paying through the nose for less production than the Cardinals are getting from someone playing the same position making the league minimum, and you wonder what my point is? Idiot.
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Pasta Little Brioni 08:51 AM 06-14-2018
Heyturd blows. It's hilarious watching Cub fans jerk off to him being an average hitter this year.
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jd1020 09:10 AM 06-14-2018
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
You're talking shit about Heyward's production when you're paying through the nose for less production than the Cardinals are getting from someone playing the same position making the league minimum, and you wonder what my point is? Idiot.
How about this then, the Cardinals have a whopping 4 position players with a higher WAR than Heyward, the Cubs have 8.

Rather pay Heyward $23M for 1 WAR than Molina $20M for 0 or Fowler $16.5M for -1.3.
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Marcellus 09:26 AM 06-14-2018
Originally Posted by jd1020:
How about this then, the Cardinals have a whopping 4 position players with a higher WAR than Heyward, the Cubs have 8.

Rather pay Heyward $23M for 1 WAR than Molina $20M for 0 or Fowler $16.5M for -1.3.
You would rather have Heyward who is a lower caliber player at a higher cost than Molina?

Dumb.
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jd1020 09:30 AM 06-14-2018
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
You would rather have Heyward who is a lower caliber player at a higher cost than Molina?

Dumb.
If you havent noticed, Molina has been declining for a while now and if you want to use Hamas' WAR statistic he is sitting right at replacement level.

I mean it must suck paying him $20M and Fowler $16.5M to give you less WAR the the Cubs get from their designated pinch hitter Tommy La Stella.

Like I said before the season even started Molina has been a below average hitter 2 out of the last 3 seasons and he's currently on pace to make that 3/4. He still had his defense going for him but it's starting to show decline as well with throwing out below league average runners in 2016 and so far in 2018, with his pitch framing putting him at +8 calls on the season which is good for 19th in the league with guys like Grandall sitting at #1 with +57.
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MarkDavis'Haircut 12:37 PM 06-15-2018
Originally Posted by scho63:
and/or Gregory Polanco. :-)

Our team looks like they've already given up on the season. :-)
Did you see their attitude after they barely held on against the Diamondbacks? No excitement or enthusiasm. They acted like they just survived a jungle expedition.

I am attending tomorrow's game.
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MarkDavis'Haircut 12:39 PM 06-15-2018
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Seriously. And I've got to wonder, how many of these guys that are playing like shit right now are doing so because they've just checked out because of Matheny?
I am a Pirates fan, I am just posting in here because I don't post in the Royals thread. That is a softball team. :-)

But I am sure some Pirates players have checked out because of Hurdle if your players are checking out because of Matheny.
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Frazod 12:42 PM 06-15-2018
Originally Posted by Carr4MVP:
I am a Pirates fan, I am just posting in here because I don't post in the Royals thread. That is a softball team. :-)

But I am sure some Pirates players have checked out because of Hurdle if your players are checking out because of Matheny.
Hurdle would be an upgrade over Matheny.
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