Rule: You can change your answer up until next Thursday!
This might be the toughest year yet for this. I can see so many different possibilities, especially considering that I think there's a solid chance the Chiefs trade up.
Edit: It's draft day and I'm changing my pick!
Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
There's way too much smoke about the Chiefs trading up and/or them targeting a LT. I'm going with a guy that I think could make it into our range, who also has the kind of upside that would have Veach itching to make a move to go get him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by SAGA45:
Thought you were pretty dug in on McConkey. Your logic for why they'd pick him was quite sound. But I get it. All the smoke about Veach wanting to go after an OT is hard to ignore.
That's just what Burt wants you to think... :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by SAGA45:
Thought you were pretty dug in on McConkey. Your logic for why they'd pick him was quite sound. But I get it. All the smoke about Veach wanting to go after an OT is hard to ignore.
The debate going on in my head is whether the Chiefs are more likely to trade up or stay put.
I've been adamant throughout the last few weeks that it's likely either trade up for a LT, or take a WR at 32. [Reply]
Originally Posted by neech:
Watch us draft someone and we're all like...Who?
Nah - these bases have been pretty well covered.
It's gonna be someone we've been talking about for a bit. Most surprising candidate that I could maybe see happening if he slipped would be Cooper DeJean who nobody's really discussed but mostly because he's a DB that's likely to go top 15-20. Seems unlikely we're trading up for a DB in this draft.
But man, Spags would LOVE that kid. He'd be a supercharged Mathieu in this defense. Or a really clean replacement for Sneed that could also slide to the slot/box in 3-safety looks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
The debate going on in my head is whether the Chiefs are more likely to trade up or stay put.
I've been adamant throughout the last few weeks that it's trade up for a LT, or take a WR at 32.
Bottom line is that I don't think we'll pay what it takes to get past 18ish and if this draft goes chalk I don't see anyone worth making that move for past about 15/16. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Bottom line is that I don't think we'll pay what it takes to get past 18ish and if this draft goes chalk I don't see anyone worth making that move for past about 15/16.
It's definitely possible that you're right. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Nah - these bases have been pretty well covered.
It's gonna be someone we've been talking about for a bit. Most surprising candidate that I could maybe see happening if he slipped would be Cooper DeJean who nobody's really discussed but mostly because he's a DB that's likely to go top 15-20. Seems unlikely we're trading up for a DB in this draft.
But man, Spags would LOVE that kid. He'd be a supercharged Mathieu in this defense. Or a really clean replacement for Sneed that could also slide to the slot/box in 3-safety looks.
Shit this is the first DB scenario that has made sense [Reply]
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
I have a feeling nobody is going to be willing to trade with Veach unless he allows himself to get absolutely fleeced, so I hope he doesn't do that. Unless of course they have someone on their board they have decided is their next must have guy, I hope they just stand pat at 32. I do have a feeling they have their eye on someone huge (I still have a nostalgic soft spot hoping they want to pull off a blockbuster and land Alt) so it'll be really interesting to see if anyone is willing to bite.
I've been thinking for months it will be Jordan Morgan at 32, so I'll stick with that. Seems like a very safe pick, his pass blocking last year was tremendous, just 2 sacks allowed in 477 drop backs and 37 starts at LT, he's NFL ready. If we can't make a huge move, I think he's the guy.
Rams will. Played poker with Stafford and Veach last night in Leawood. It's happening. :-) Brian Thomas Jr. gonna look good in Red, White and Gold... [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Bottom line is that I don't think we'll pay what it takes to get past 18ish and if this draft goes chalk I don't see anyone worth making that move for past about 15/16.
If you want an OT or Brian Thomas, it has to be 16 at the latest. After that, you aren't finding a dance partner until 22, which puts you in the Ad Mitchell/Xavier Worthy field. Tackles remaining are Morgan, Guyton, Shacklebolt. [Reply]
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
Shit this is the first DB scenario that has made sense
It's really the only one I can come up with.
I kinda feel like the other two 'premium' DBs in this class are largely wasted on us. Those are your very traditional hyper-athletic sorts of guys and I just feel like we get diminishing returns on those. We can take a lesser athlete and get him playing NEAR that level so I don't think we draft for premier athletic traits at that position.
But if you take those traits and add DeJeans physicality, versatility and play strenght/aggression, you get a guy that will absolutely turn Spags head.
If he could have any defensive player in this entire draft, I think he might just choose DeJean. Over Murphy/Newton or any of the DEs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
If you want an OT or Brian Thomas, it has to be 16 at the latest. After that, you aren't finding a dance partner until 22, which puts you in the Ad Mitchell/Xavier Worthy field. Tackles remaining are Morgan, Guyton, Shacklebolt.
19 is viable, IMO.
But yeah, I'm inclined to agree with you. 16 is the landing spot. And if they'd take 32 and next year's 2nd for it we might just do it. But I don't think they would. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
It's really the only one I can come up with.
I kinda feel like the other two 'premium' DBs in this class are largely wasted on us. Those are your very traditional hyper-athletic sorts of guys and I just feel like we get diminishing returns on those. We can take a lesser athlete and get him playing NEAR that level so I don't think we draft for premier athletic traits at that position.
But if you take those traits and add DeJeans physicality, versatility and play strenght/aggression, you get a guy that will absolutely turn Spags head.
If he could have any defensive player in this entire draft, I think he might just choose DeJean. Over Murphy/Newton or any of the DEs.
