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View Poll Results: Do you support the DNCís efforts to derail Bernie?
Hell yeah! USA, USA! 13 40.63%
No 14 43.75%
The DNC has been impartial and fair to Bernie 4 12.50%
You are clearly a member of the Bernard Brethren 2 6.25%
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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Conservatives, do you support the DNCís 16í and 20í efforts to derail Bernie
Chiefspants 10:45 PM 02-25-2020
Honest reacts only
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NWTF 05:55 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
I don't support the process they've put in place to weed out wackier candidates by giving elites a lot more say than voters, mainly because it's worked. It almost put Hillary in the White House. But I don't mind that Sanders seems to be able to beat the semi-rigged system since he's just going to send them to defeat at all levels, and hopefully put socialism back on the ash heap of history.
:-)

Well said
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Randallflagg 06:02 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
No one is preventing him from running... but if he is admittedly not a dem, why should he be privy to their machine?

If his grass roots are so deep and strong as touted, going it alone as an independent/socialist seems fair to me... thatís how true revolutionaries have always done it

I have wondered about that for years...
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patteeu 06:03 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
Bernie deserves the nomination since the moderates cant seem to coalesce behind anyone. And if Bernie's ideas cannot overcome Trumpism, then clearly his ideas are a failure because up until this point, this would be the opponent to run this against.
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan27:
Lol, ok. When Hillary loses to Trump and a far left candidate beats a bunch of moderate Democrats that's not an indictment on their agenda, but if Bernie loses to an incumbent with a passionate base as the corporate class fear mongers about his candidacy at every turn, then his ideas are a "failure." Cool story bro.
Psst. His ideas are failures regardless of the outcome of upcoming elections.
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Titty Meat 06:05 PM 02-26-2020
Its surprising yes isnt leading the poll. Conservatives are totally fine with corruption.
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Just Passin' By 06:16 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Its surprising yes isnt leading the poll. Conservatives are totally fine with corruption.

Sanders isn't a Democrat, and that makes a big difference to some people. That has nothing to do with corruption. Of course, the better argument is that Sanders shouldn't have been allowed to run in the first place but, if the rules of a brokered convention allow for an end run, how is that corruption?
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Raiderhader 06:37 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Its surprising yes isnt leading the poll. Conservatives are totally fine with corruption.
This conservative is totally fine with corrupt liberals engaging in corruption against each other.

Itís poetic justice, really.
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Eleazar 06:39 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Raiderhader:
This conservative is totally fine with corrupt liberals engaging in corruption against each other.

Itís poetic justice, really.
Right... never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.
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Raiderhader 07:05 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
Right... never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake.
Eggzactly.
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cosmo20002 07:43 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Honestly, last night a lot of conservatives seemed to tacitly acknowledge that the DNC was going in on derailing Bernie in last night's debate thread. I thought it'd be interesting to see what they thought of an opposing party going after a their candidate who (so far) has the most support from its voters.
The DNC isn't doing shit to Bernie. He didn't get screwed out of anything in 16--he got crushed and it wasn't close.
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LiveSteam 07:52 PM 02-26-2020
:-)
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cosmo20002 07:55 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
The DNC absolutely intervened to keep Biden out of the race in 2016 (and worked to undercut Bernieís campaign to boot) and made some sort of arrangement with Obama in order to give him enough of Hillaryís superdelegates in 2008 for him to clinch the nom. The DNC has arranged things like this before, which makes me think theyíre hoping for another outcome.

Allowing people like Bloominí Onion in so late in the game to further distort the Dems field is a horrendous strategy. At the very least, they could have stopped him at the gate.
This is made-up nonsense.
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Chiefspants 08:40 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
This is made-up nonsense.
Oh really? You should write to these publications and let them know.

https://www.newsweek.com/clinton-rob...brazile-699421

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ks-2016-215774

https://www.npr.org/2017/11/03/56197...th-dnc-in-2015

https://theintercept.com/2017/11/03/...-barack-obama/

Oh - and this amazing article - which details how the DNC fist fought with Obama's 2008 grassroots efforts and stalled their larger ambitions beyond 2008 once Obama folded to the party: https://newrepublic.com/article/1402...sroots-machine
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cosmo20002 09:06 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Oh really? You should write to these publications.

https://www.newsweek.com/clinton-rob...brazile-699421

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ks-2016-215774

https://theintercept.com/2017/11/03/...-barack-obama/
First of all, I responded to your post that talked about Biden in 2016 and Obama's superdelagates in 2008. You respond with Donna Brazille and the 2016 primaries.

Donna Brazille can give her opinion all she wants, it doesn't mean it's true. And I'm pretty sure she's gone back on her exaggerated "rigged" claims anyway. You can put up all the statements you want about DNC folks saying they wanted Hillary--it doesn't mean anything was RIGGED.

People went and voted. And Bernie got crushed in the primaries. It wasn't close by any measure. She won 11 more states. More than 3 million more votes. 1000 more delegates.
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Chiefspants 09:12 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
First of all, I responded to your post that talked about Biden in 2016 and Obama's superdelagates in 2008. You respond with Donna Brazille and the 2016 primaries.

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You beat my edit:

Originally Posted by :
Here's this amazing article, details how the DNC fist fought with Obama's 2008 grassroots efforts and stalled their larger ambitions beyond 2008 once Obama folded to the party: https://newrepublic.com/article/1402...sroots-machine

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cosmo20002 09:20 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
You beat my edit:
That article is going to tell me what exactly?
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