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Eleazar 09:18 AM 08-10-2017
Marijuana use holds three-fold blood pressure death risk: study
Kate Kelland | Reuters



LONDON (Reuters) - People who smoke marijuana have a three times greater risk of dying from hypertension, or high blood pressure, than those who have never used the drug, scientists said on Wednesday.

The risk grows with every year of use, they said.

The findings, from a study of some 1,200 people, could have implications in the United States among other countries. Several states have legalized marijuana and others are moving toward it. It is decriminalized in a number of other countries.

"Support for liberal marijuana use is partly due to claims that it is beneficial and possibly not harmful to health," said Barbara Yankey, who co-led the research at the school of public health at Georgia State University in the United States.

"It is important to establish whether any health benefits outweigh the potential health, social and economic risks. If marijuana use is implicated in cardiovascular diseases and deaths, then it rests on the health community and policy makers to protect the public."

Marijuana is also sometimes used for medicinal purposes, such as for glaucoma.

The study, published in the European Journal of Preventive Cardiology, was a retrospective follow-up study of 1,213 people aged 20 or above who had been involved in a large and ongoing National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey. In 20052006, they were asked if they had ever used marijuana.

For Yankey's study, information on marijuana use was merged with mortality data in 2011 from the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics, and adjusted for confounding factors such as tobacco smoking and variables including sex, age and ethnicity.

The average duration of use among users of marijuana, or cannabis, was 11.5 years.

The results showed marijuana users had a 3.42-times higher risk of death from hypertension than non-users, and a 1.04 greater risk for each year of use.

There was no link between marijuana use and dying from heart or cerebrovascular diseases such as strokes.

Yankey said were limitations in the way marijuana use was assessed -- including that researchers could not be sure whether people had used the drug continuously since they first tried it.

But she said the results chimed with plausible risks, since marijuana is known to affect the cardiovascular system.

"Marijuana stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, leading to increases in heart rate, blood pressure and oxygen demand," she said.

Experts not directly involved in the study said its findings would need to be replicated, but already raised concerns.

"Despite the widely held view that cannabis is benign, this research adds to previous work suggesting otherwise," said Ian Hamilton, a lecturer in mental health at Britain's York University.

http://reut.rs/2voF62N
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POND_OF_RED 07:20 PM 08-10-2017
Originally Posted by stevieray:
....you really believe that makes you better?
Yeah......I really can't believe I posted that. I got high and PB raised my blood pressure too much I guess. I was trying to make a joke about how Aaron Hernandez was broke as shit when he died, not trying to brag about having money. Reading it now makes me sick because I can see how I came across as a complete douche. I really shouldn't be having to try to convince a football message board that I'm a better person than Aaron Hernandez. Well played PB. I completely fell into the troll vortex.
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chiefzilla1501 06:47 AM 08-11-2017
Has anyone actually argued that weed is good for you? You can't be outraged about soda bans and forced healthy lunches, then all of a sudden be alarmed that weed is bad for your health. There are a lot worse vices out there that are totally illegal.

It doesn't explain why it's a schedule 1 drug which is stupid beyond belief
Raised blood pressure is not a reason to spend $50b per year on a drug war, and to overincarcerate for small possession
Raised blood pressure is better than opiod addiction. States with friendly med marijuana laws have lower incidences of opiod hospitalizations with virtually no increase in marijuana hospitalizations

Its basically tobacco with side effects much milder than alcohol.
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chiefzilla1501 06:57 AM 08-11-2017
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
I highly doubt Bill Gates sits around smoking pot. A "stoner"???? You cannot possibly be that stupid.



Let's talk Phelps: great swimmer. Good for him. Also a suicidal depressive who tried to kill himself, an alcoholic who hit rehab, multiple DUI, failed father, and someone who was caught butt-f***ing a tranny:
http://sandrarose.com/2015/12/michae...mpted-suicide/


So I'll state quite clearly: I've had a much more successful life than he has, other than our 400 butterfly times.
What bubble do you live in? If you hang out with any partners or executives, plenty of them smoke weed. Guess you've never heard of vaporizing, which is rich people pot smoking. And if they don't, a ton of them have a drinking or coke habit much worse than the weed smokers.

Not sure what leadership circles you've hung out in. Or what you think happens at top colleges and grad schools. And no, I don't smoke weed. I never really cared for it.
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bigjosh 08:57 AM 08-11-2017
Get High...

12 tacos and 2 loaded potato grillers...

"Weed causes hypertension"

Nothing to see here.
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Fish 09:32 AM 08-11-2017
Originally Posted by bigjosh006:
Get High...

12 tacos and 2 loaded potato grillers...

"Weed causes hypertension"

Nothing to see here.
:-)... damn weed giving me this hypertension!


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notorious 09:35 AM 08-11-2017
Some people argue that weed is a miracle substance, others say it's the devil.


It probably falls somewhere in the gray area.
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Rausch 09:44 AM 08-11-2017
Originally Posted by notorious:
Some people argue that weed is a miracle substance, others say it's the devil.


It probably falls somewhere in the gray area.
I don't know where that judgement lies but it helped ease my dad's pain, and it was significant. It was the only thing his last two years that even kept him eating...
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notorious 09:50 AM 08-11-2017
Originally Posted by Rausch:
I don't know where that judgement lies but it helped ease my dad's pain, and it was significant. It was the only thing his last two years that even kept him eating...
That's great news about your dad! :-)

But, my take isn'treally a judgement, just common sense. Most things are never as great or as horrible as people think.


I think it should be legalized and let people make up their own minds, but I take that stance on almost everything.

This is coming from a guy that has never smoked it.
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BWillie 10:37 AM 08-11-2017
Originally Posted by Cochise:
Marijuana use holds three-fold blood pressure death risk: study
Kate Kelland | Reuters



LONDON (Reuters) - People who smoke marijuana have a three times greater risk of dying from hypertension, or high blood pressure, than those who have never used the drug, scientists said on Wednesday.

The risk grows with every year of use, they said.

The findings, from a study of some 1,200 people, could have implications in the United States among other countries. Several states have legalized marijuana and others are moving toward it. It is decriminalized in a number of other countries.

"Support for liberal marijuana use is partly due to claims that it is beneficial and possibly not harmful to health," said Barbara Yankey, who co-led the research at the school of public health at Georgia State University in the United States.

"It is important to establish whether any health benefits outweigh the potential health, social and economic risks. If marijuana use is implicated in cardiovascular diseases and deaths, then it rests on the health community and policy makers to protect the public."

Marijuana is also sometimes used for medicinal purposes, such as for glaucoma.

The study, published in the European Journal of Preventive Cardiology, was a retrospective follow-up study of 1,213 people aged 20 or above who had been involved in a large and ongoing National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey. In 20052006, they were asked if they had ever used marijuana.

For Yankey's study, information on marijuana use was merged with mortality data in 2011 from the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics, and adjusted for confounding factors such as tobacco smoking and variables including sex, age and ethnicity.

The average duration of use among users of marijuana, or cannabis, was 11.5 years.

The results showed marijuana users had a 3.42-times higher risk of death from hypertension than non-users, and a 1.04 greater risk for each year of use.

There was no link between marijuana use and dying from heart or cerebrovascular diseases such as strokes.

Yankey said were limitations in the way marijuana use was assessed -- including that researchers could not be sure whether people had used the drug continuously since they first tried it.

But she said the results chimed with plausible risks, since marijuana is known to affect the cardiovascular system.

"Marijuana stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, leading to increases in heart rate, blood pressure and oxygen demand," she said.

Experts not directly involved in the study said its findings would need to be replicated, but already raised concerns.

"Despite the widely held view that cannabis is benign, this research adds to previous work suggesting otherwise," said Ian Hamilton, a lecturer in mental health at Britain's York University.

http://reut.rs/2voF62N
Wow so it's like, not good for you? Who would have thought! The same study could be made for cigarettes, alcohol, energy drinks, donuts etc.
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Prison Bitch 10:48 AM 08-11-2017
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Has anyone actually argued that weed is good for you? You can't be outraged about soda bans and forced healthy lunches, then all of a sudden be alarmed that weed is bad for your health. There are a lot worse vices out there that are totally illegal.

It doesn't explain why it's a schedule 1 drug which is stupid beyond belief
Raised blood pressure is not a reason to spend $50b per year on a drug war, and to overincarcerate for small possession
Raised blood pressure is better than opiod addiction. States with friendly med marijuana laws have lower incidences of opiod hospitalizations with virtually no increase in marijuana hospitalizations

Its basically tobacco with side effects much milder than alcohol.


Did you read (even skim) the article?
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Titty Meat 12:12 PM 08-11-2017
Fuck weed
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chiefzilla1501 12:36 PM 08-11-2017
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Did you read (even skim) the article?
Am I missing something? What does the article say except that it creates a risk of higher blood pressure? There are tons of legal activities that come to the same conclusion.
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Taco John 01:14 PM 08-11-2017
Originally Posted by listopencil:
Have you ever tried vaping it? Or have you tried the CBD oil?
I'm not a mad smoker, or anything, but yes. Most of the people in Washington State that I know use vaping now over smoking raw bud. I think vaping is seen as more "civilized."

Though the raw bud business here still seems to be thriving. I've tried edibles as well, including oil. The CBD stuff is for pain relief, so I haven't spent too much time with it, but my mother in law actually shared that she bought some CBD lotion for her arthritis.
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listopencil 11:05 PM 08-11-2017
Originally Posted by Taco John:
I'm not a mad smoker, or anything, but yes. Most of the people in Washington State that I know use vaping now over smoking raw bud. I think vaping is seen as more "civilized."

Though the raw bud business here still seems to be thriving. I've tried edibles as well, including oil. The CBD stuff is for pain relief, so I haven't spent too much time with it, but my mother in law actually shared that she bought some CBD lotion for her arthritis.
Might be an urban=vape/rural=smoke kind of thing. I live in a rural area and there is a shit ton of pot being grown out here. It has been pretty easy to get for a long time.
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Inspector 12:18 AM 08-12-2017
Good or bad, I'm uncomfortable with the idea that fellow Americans (via government laws) can and do dictate what consenting adults can choose to legally do to their own bodies in the privacy of their own homes.

Still trying to connect that fact with freedom and pursuit of happiness and the not living under a weird version of tyranny.

It's like some folks believe they should be able to tell you what you can do to yourself in your home but simply do not want you to tell them what to do to themselves.

"Let's put pot smokers in jail. It's bad for them."

How about, "Let's put ice cream eaters in jail. It's bad for them. Or cigarette smokers. Or alcohol drinkers...etc, etc.

America, land of the free!!

This is really fucked up.
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